Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!ogicse!ucsd!hub.ucsb.edu!henri!doner From: doner@henri.ucsb.edu (John Doner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Mathematical & scientific characters. Message-ID: <10987@hub.ucsb.edu> Date: 2 May 91 19:51:02 GMT References: <19851@slice.ooc.uva.nl> Sender: news@hub.ucsb.edu Reply-To: doner@henri.UUCP (John Doner) Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Lines: 44 In article <19851@slice.ooc.uva.nl> morgan@ooc.uva.nl (Chris Morgan/RIKS) writes: =Hi all, = =I'm currently doing battle with one of the UNIX buffs here who insists =that he can produce higher quality output for his technical journal =papers using his UNIX box and TROFF/NROFF etc,. than with my Macs. = =I have seen his output which is indeed of a high quality - credit =where credit is due (#$@*&%#@$). He insists that he cannot produce =output of similar quality on the Mac because - to use his words - there =is no way to control accurate line, character paragraph spacing etc., and =you cannot control accurately the thickness of the characters etc. Well, =I have to agree with him where MS-Word is concerened. BUT I have recently ='discovered' the wonderes of PageMaker 4.0. With PagaMaker, it took me about =an hour of trial and error before I could ACCURATELY reproduce his style =of output - BUT I did it. = =My only problem now (and its too late for me to back out AND save face =at this time) is reproducing all the mathematical and scientific characters =which he requires. I know there are tricks to do this is MS-Word and I know =there is the Symbol font set. BUT these 2 sources alone are simply not =sufficient in supplying every type of technical sysmbol which my user =needs. He's right; troff will do much better than MS Word or some such when it comes to formatting a technical document. He's wrong if he thinks you can't do it on a Mac. The premier system for these purposes is not troff, but TeX. That is available on both Unix systems, Macs, PC's, even Ataris. The Mac has a particularly nice version called Textures, costing about $300, and an almost-as-good public domain (i.e., FREE) version called OzTeX, which you can get via anonymous ftp from midway.uchicago.edu (in pub/OzTeX) My "almost-as-good" refers not to the quality of the output, which is exactly the same, but to user interface features where the commercial product appears to have a slight edge. TeX itself is a freely available typesetting language and system designed by Professor Donald Knuth of the Computer Science Department at Stanford. It is widely used; we use it for all our technical typing here in the UCSB Math. Dept.; a company I consult for uses it for all their technical reports, and so on. Forget about troff. John E. Doner doner@henri.ucsb.edu (805)893-3941 Dept. Mathematics, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA 93106