Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac.system:4807 comp.sys.mac.misc:11618 Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!swbatl!george From: george@swbatl.sbc.com (George Nincehelser 5-6544) Subject: Re: ** Watchout for the Abaton Interfax ** Message-ID: <1991May1.194032.10714@swbatl.sbc.com> Organization: Southwestern Bell Advanced Technology Laboratory References: <1991May1.080409.25352@silvlis.com> <1991May1.143507.28736@swbatl.sbc.com> <1991May01.160508.7643@mthvax.cs.miami.edu> Date: Wed, 1 May 91 19:40:32 GMT In article <1991May01.160508.7643@mthvax.cs.miami.edu> rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Roby Sherman) writes: >In <1991May1.143507.28736@swbatl.sbc.com> george@swbatl.sbc.com (George Nincehelser 5-6544) writes: > > >>So? What's your point? Are you saying I don't have *legitimate* System 7? >>I suggest you be careful with your accusations. > >Let's try and not be so childish, ok? I'm not. It seems I'm being accused of not having a legitimate copy. That is not the case. I have the right to defend myself. >>Sorry. *Legitimate* developers have had 7 for some time now. There's little >>reason for them not to release ugrades before or on the official release date. >>If 7 wasn't so widely available and wasn't in beta for so long, I'd fell >>differently. > >I disagree. Macs are STILL shipping with System 6.0.7. And until that >changes, developers are obligated to support THAT system. Now there is >nothing wrong with re-vamping a software package so that it is compatible >with System 7, but I think it is rather foolish to add to the confusion of >"What's compatible with what?" by shipping a system 6 product and a system 7 >product when only one OS is actually shipping. If a dealer sees Excel 3.0, >they're going to order it, because it's the "Latest and greatest". >Most of them would not take the time to consider that the product may >REQUIRE system 7 to run, because WHO in their right mind would SHIP a product >before Apple officially releases the OS to support that product. That is a >waste of resources and time. Well, if the app is written well, it should function under both 6 and 7. Some of the 7 features wouldn't be available under 6, however. Microsoft Excel 3.0 is an example. > >>I've got several product betas that are >>working fine from companies other than Microsoft. They'd go into general >>release as they're bug-free as far as I can tell, but they act like they >>would be breaking some rule if they started shipping. > >Well, some of them would, A-lot of people, including myself, signed >non-disclosures to get System 7 as well as the technical info about it. >Now maybe YOU like breaking the law, but I personally, do not. And I don't see >many developers shipping products for an OS which they're not supposed to >disclose any information about.. You seem to be accusing me of doing something illegal. I'm not. I'm under non-disclosure also. I haven't said anthing that isn't public knowledge. System 7 is coming, the only question is *exactly* when. Check out some of the latest Mac magazines. System 7 isn't a big secret. > >>I don't desire 7 badly since I've had it for some time now. My gripe is >>that many vendors are acting like 7 is some big secret. It isn't. > >Well, just because SOME people break their non-disclosures doesn't make it >allright for EVERYONE to talk. Again, you accuse me of breaking non-disclosure. I haven't. So back off. -- / George David Nincehelser \ george@swbatl.sbc.com \ / / Southwestern Bell Telephone \ Phone: (314) 235-6544 \ / / / Advanced Technology Laboratory \ Fax: (314) 235-5797 \ / / / /\ 1010 Pine, St. Louis, MO 63101 \ de asini umbra disceptare \