Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!unixland!bill From: bill@unixland.uucp (Bill Heiser) Subject: Re: Buying UNIX for a clone Message-ID: <1991May1.222239.16203@unixland.uucp> Organization: Think_Tank BBS & Public Access Unix References: <1991Apr30.173134.11376@nstar.rn.com> <1991Apr30.232120.9145@unixland.uucp> <1991May01.172734.10760@nstar.rn.com> Date: Wed, 1 May 91 22:22:39 GMT In article <1991May01.172734.10760@nstar.rn.com> larry@nstar.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes: >bill@unixland.uucp (Bill Heiser) writes: > >>the bus and build up a daisy chain of drives. As it turns out, with >>one combination of drives I just happen to have, I can't run SCSICNTL >>or debug on one of the drives! To do so, I need to disconnect one of >>the drives. This is just one example of subtle little incompatibilities. > >what drive gives you the problems with scsicntl? I have the following configuration. The bus is terminated correctly (at each end), and all drives/host adapter are configured for parity. I experimented with various methods of providing scsi terminating power, to no avail. CDC Wren IV SCSI ID 1 --| | Archive | Viper 2150S | SCSI ID 4 --| When running SCSICNTL in this configuration, | it reports something like "drive did not respond Adaptec | to drive size query" (or something along those 1542b HA | lines). The Toshiba drive info doesn't show up SCSI ID 7 --| in the "select unit" menu. When running with | either the Toshiba or Maxtor disconnected, and | terminations/scsi ids changed as appropriate, Toshiba | everything is fine. MK-156FB | SCSI ID 2 --| This configuration has been running with Esix for | several weeks now. The only anomaly I've noticed Maxtor | so far (aside from not being able to properly use 8760S | SCSICNTL or DEBUG) is that my UUCP *INBOUND* rates SCSI ID 0 --| have fallen from 1250 CPS to 700 CPS !!! VERY ODD! To answer your question, I'm not sure which drive causes the problem. It seems to be some incompatibility problem between the Toshiba and Maxtor drives. Someone suggested that these two drives don't implement SCSI protocol very well, so they wouldn't be happy co-existing. -- bill@unixland.uucp The Think_Tank BBS & Public Access Unix ...!uunet!think!unixland!bill ..!{uunet,bloom-beacon,esegue}!world!unixland!bill 508-655-3848 (2400) 508-651-8723 (9600-HST) 508-651-8733 (9600-PEP-V32)