Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!stanford.edu!agate!darkstar!felix!haynes From: haynes@felix.ucsc.edu (99700000) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: BSD tty security, part 3: How to Fix It Message-ID: <15144@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Date: 29 Apr 91 05:30:03 GMT References: <7310@segue.segue.com> <564@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> Sender: usenet@darkstar.ucsc.edu Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Open Access Computing Lines: 22 In article <564@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> lm@slovax.Eng.Sun.COM (Larry McVoy) writes: > >Is all this fuss really worth it? I hate to appear caveliar and I >don't speak for Sun, just as a user, but does anyone really care? OK, >anyone except the Feds? Yeah, the system is insecure. In many >places. It seems to me that worrying about anti-social behavior >through tty's is the least of our problems. I think it depends a lot on the situation where the system is used. In a business environment you care a lot about keeping out unauthorized people; but you can expect the authorized users to be well-behaved toward one another. In the academic environment we don't worry so much about keeping out unauthorized users - we have thousands of legitimate users, and we can be sure some of them are going to give out their passwords to others. But we have lots of naive users, and some mischievous users, and some malicious users, and some sets of feuding users; and we would rather have the system do what it can to protect them rather than have them all come crying to the management about the abuse they are getting at the hands of other users. Even in the business world you may need to worry about harassment and unauthorized access by authorized users.