Xref: utzoo comp.unix.wizards:25230 alt.security:2352 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!apple!erc From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards,alt.security Subject: Re: BSD tty security, part 4: What You Can Look Forward To Message-ID: <13218@goofy.Apple.COM> Date: 29 Apr 91 16:37:24 GMT References: <3600:Apr2614:04:4391@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA Lines: 26 In article <3600:Apr2614:04:4391@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) writes: >6. I will give further details on the security holes to anyone who >convinces me that he has a legitimate interest. That means I want a >verifiable chain of people and phone numbers from the contact for a >major network down to whoever wants the information, plus a better Um, what IS this bullshit? Who the hell are you to set yourself up as some sort of net.god and tell us that you will "bless" us with all your neat little hacks and info only if we satisfy your little set of rules? Your pathetic excuses about protecting the information from "black hats" is unmitigated bullshit. The only thing you are doing is concealing any valuable information that you may have from the people who have a genuine need for your information. The folks who already care about cracking into systems already know about this stuff anyway. Get real. You sound like Gene Spafford when the baloon went up on the Internet virus/Morris stuff. He, too, wanted to "protect" the unwashed from knowing what was going on. I'm glad to see that he has a more enlightened point of view. -- Ed Carp N7EKG/6 erc@khijol.UUCP ...uunet!khijol!erc UUWEST Consulting Alameda, CA 415/814-0550 Computers HAVE caused a revolution in how much information we can safely ignore! --robs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Rob Schaeffer) -- Absolutely unabashed Gates McFadden groupie! --