Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!stanford.edu!msi.umn.edu!sctc.com!smith From: smith@sctc.com (Rick Smith) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Why not Multics? (was Re: BSD tty security, part 3: How to Fix It) Message-ID: <1991May3.184152.28644@sctc.com> Date: 3 May 91 18:41:52 GMT References: <3096@cirrusl.UUCP> <15896: Apr2714: 35:3991@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> <542@trux.UUCP> <1991Apr30.142053.2313@sctc.com> <00673160066@elgamy.RAIDERNET.COM> Organization: SCTC Lines: 35 elg@elgamy.RAIDERNET.COM (Eric Lee Green) wrote a pretty good article, with lots of stuff about why MULTICS died, giving particular attention to its grotty hardware requirements and intrinsic incompatibility with what everyone else was doing with hardware to support OSes. Then he goes on to gripe about the interface... >there were some >half-hearted attempts at MIT and elsewhere to bag on support for graphics >terminals and such, but a real professional job of it was never >accomplished. About the only really user-friendly software that ran on the >machine was an excellent version of Emacs written at MIT, ... Now, I first encountered MULTICS just about ten years ago, having come off of TENEX, RSX, RT-11, Unix-V6-and-a-half, and various other dogs and cats. As far as "user friendliness" goes, MULTICS was equivalent and usually better than the competition. It sure beat Unix back then, though NED _was_ a terrific editor. Even PCs (mostly called "home computers" back then) were overwhelmingly line oriented. There were some wonderful technical fantasies out there (Alto, for instance) but it took another couple of years for workstations and decent graphics to be a major force. BTW, try using EMACS on a loaded KA-10... if you want to talk s.l.o.w... !! It ran much better on a loaded MULTICS, for "only" a few million bucks more. > And of course the whole OS was >designed in the late 60's and early 70's, and it showed... The same statement is true of UNIX and even of the Alto, which pioneered all those user-friendlyisms we see in modern window managers. Rick. smith@sctc.com