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From: kk@shasta.tivoli.COM (Kerry Kimbrough)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: [spr3161] Can I get some information from the window manager
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Date: 1 May 91 20:35:53 GMT
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   > Does noone out there care much about placement of multi-window
   > applications? 

ICCCM cares! It just doesn't care to explain the very best. See ICCCM 4.1.2.3,
WM_NORMAL_HINTS. Use the win_gravity hint to position a specified corner/side of
the box containing a fully-decorated top-level window at a given location. This
can be exploited to coordinate the positions of related top-level's, even to
create a limited form of tiling. (As always, no guarantee that these hints will
be respected.)



   > > Is it possible to get any of the following information from the window
   > > manager?
   > > 
   > > - the width of the border the WM draws
   > > - the height of the title bar
   > > - how wide a window would have to be to fit a specific title 

No. ICCCM is very conservative w.r.t. wm's. It only treats with properties and
behaviors used by *all* wm's. There exist wm's without title bars, extra
borders, etc.; ergo ICCCM has nothing to say about such decorations.