Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!wuarchive!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!info-high-audio-request From: sundinKC@dna.lth.se (Anders Sundin) Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end Subject: Re: What's up with RDAT? Message-ID: <11583@uwm.edu> Date: 30 Apr 91 13:00:19 GMT Sender: news@uwm.edu Lines: 39 Approved: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Ted Grusec (ted@dgbt.doc.ca) writes: >For an excellent overview of DCC (Philips), including elucidation of >the PASC coding scheme, economics, subjective listener evaluation, >etc., see the series of short articles in the April 91 Stereophile. I >am doing subjective evaluations in experiments with a similar coding >scheme (Musicam) in the digital audio broadcasting domain, and, I must >say, the results are very impressive. Most listeners cannot tell the >difference between an original CD and the PASC encoded version, even >though the latter reduces the bit rate by a factor of 6! And then it deserves to be mentioned that PASC for DCC has uses twice as much data as MUSICAM for broadcasting. Philips has drawn (draws?) upon the experience from broadcasting tests to use all that extra data to further improve the already excellent performance of MUSICAM. This also makes the signal more robust for multiple generation decoding/encoding copying and people messing around wildly with the frequency response. A question: Is the "18-bit" resolution hardwired into the system or is it consequence of the resolution of the surrounding AD/DA converters? The latter seems most likely but I have seen no solid data. (Stereophile isn't imported to Sweden. How were the listening tests conducted, and what were the results?) Jonas Palm PS. I'm posting this from the account of a friend. Please don't hold him responsible. My own E-mail adress is: OK3JONAS@SELDC52.BITNET ok3jonas@gemini.ldc.se -- ------------------------------------------------------------- | Anders Sundin | e-mail: sundinKC@dna.lth.se | | University of Lund | ok2aps@gemini.ldc.lu.se | | Organic Chemistry 2, | ok2aps@seldc52.bitnet | | P.O. Box 124 | phone: +46 46 108214 | | S-22100 Lund, Sweden | fax: +46 46 108209 | -------------------------------------------------------------