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From: dole@clipper.ingr.com (Harry Dole)
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Subject: Re: [Indoor] Picking the right bird
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Date: 2 May 91 06:59:47 GMT
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> From clipper!unix!Teknowledge.COM!uw-beaver!cornell!batcomputer!rpi!crdgw1!uunet!viusys!uxui!unislc!mru Wed May  1 23:40:15 PDT 1991
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> From: mru@unislc.uucp (Mara Ulis)
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> Subject: Re: [Indoor] Picking the right bird
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> In article <1991Apr22.195102.18507@s1.msi.umn.edu> martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU writes:
> >Hello,
> >I have been making plans for quite a while to purchase a bird.  The only
> >problem I have is deciding what kind.  I have pretty much narrowed it down to
> >the conure family because of their appealing size and personalities, but I
> >really don't know which kind of conure would be best for my lifestyle.  
> >
> >I am looking for an affectionate bird that will be able to amuse himself with
> >toys during the daytime while I am gone.  I live in an apartment so a breed
> >that is notoriously noisy probably wouldn't be very desirable (even though he
> >probably couldn't outdo my neighbor's stereo anyways!).  Does anybody know of
> >any types of conures in particular which make loving pets and also good
> >apartment pets?  Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >BTW- if anyone knows of any other types of birds besides conures which would
> >also fit what I'm looking for, please send me your thoughts!
> >
> >
> >Amy Jorgenson
> >K00004@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu
> Hi Amy,
> 
> The magazine BIRDS U.S.A. 1991 has a nice article on conures and gives all
> the information you would need to make an educated decision on which is
> right for you.  I believe the magazine just recently came out so it is
> available in some pet shops and book stores.  I can't remember all I
> read, but, they did say that the sun conures are really loud and the
> patagonians are quiet.  If  you can't get ahold of this magazine and would
> like me to send you a copy of the article, email or post.
> 
> Good luck,
> Mara Ulis

Hi:   I am posting this for a friend who knows a lot more about birds than I do:

WAIT!  Don't try to keep a Patigonian quiet!  Most books and articles say
that their noise rules them out of most collections.  

I believe Mara meant that you should check out the genus Pyrrhura.  The 

article I've seen lately in BIRD TALK (Feb. 1991) says that they're better
for apartment dwellers than others.

Have you looked at the little maroon bellied Pyrrhura?  They are feisty
but sweet and acrobatic, and won't make nearly the racket of a Nanday or 
Pati.  They aren't as flashy as many conures, and even they might not be
a good choice if you have sensitive neighbors.

If you haven't considered Pionus parrots, please try to meet one.  They are 
much more quiet than any conure, and price is comparable to some of the
flashier conures.

I am told they talk more readily than conures, too.

I am looking for a companion for a home office, and have had a hard time 
choosing between a maroon bellied conure and a Pionus.  If they were not
so much more expensive, I'd also be looking at Eclectus.

Good luck!