Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!bu.edu!bu-bio!colby From: colby@bu-bio.bu.edu (Chris Colby) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: non-genetic evolution... not Message-ID: <80394@bu.edu.bu.edu> Date: 28 Apr 91 21:12:41 GMT References: <79788@bu.edu.bu.edu> <47570@ut-emx.uucp> <79798@bu.edu.bu.edu> <1991Apr25.203311.20957@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Sender: news@bu.edu.bu.edu Reply-To: colby@bu-bio.UUCP (Chris Colby) Organization: Biology Dept., Bost Lines: 45 In article <1991Apr25.203311.20957@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel) writes: >In article <79798@bu.edu.bu.edu> colby@bu-bio.UUCP (Chris Colby) writes: >> Remember that evolution is _defined_ as a change in the >>gene pool; therefore non-genetic evolution is by definition non- >>sensical. > It seems to me that the definition presented above is useful in some >contexts, but overly restrictive in others. The wasp example which >someone else posted is a good example. Whether or not the wasps' gene >pool changed, there has been a change in the species which is persistent >against (one presumes) significant external perturbations. How does this differ (in the wasp case) from a persistent change in a species induced by an external parasite (for ex lower body weight due to the parasite tapping energy from the host)? Would you consider that an evolutionary change? (Hint: it isn't) [some stuff deleted] > My definition has the advantage that it allows us to include in >evolutionary theory things which we may not have thought of yet. So does the current definition. >Further, stability of evolved traits as the hallmark of evolution brings >the language of biology into line with modern thinking in other >sciences. You've been listening to creationists too long if you think evolutionary biology is lagging behind the other sciences. (Hint: go browse through recent copies of _Nature_ or _Science_ -big league science journals- and see if you see any articles about evolution. Hint: you will) >(I am curious to hear comments on this last point. Would people >think of this as an advantage, a disadvantage, or neither?) Evolved traits (since they are by definition genetically based) have been known to be stable since Mendel's work. > Marc R. Roussel Chris Colby email: colby@bu-bio.bu.edu