Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!uunet!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdcad!amdcad!military From: bxr307@csc1.anu.edu.au Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Infantryman's Field Kit Message-ID: <1991Apr29.051409.5083@amd.com> Date: 25 Apr 91 06:22:34 GMT References: <1991Apr22.071734.24926@amd.com> <1991Apr23.053758.23784@amd.com> <1991Apr24.054658.19035@amd.com> Sender: military@amd.com Organization: Computer Services, Australian National University Lines: 47 Approved: military@amd.com From: bxr307@csc1.anu.edu.au > From: carlson@gateway.mitre.org (Bruce Carlson) > The Army issue is similar to USMC, but there are a few exceptions I can > think of off-hand: [...] > 5. Weapons and several other items are individually assigned, but not > individually authorized (issue is tied to your duty position). For > example, a Captain that is in a staff position may be authorized to > carry an M16 rifle, but a Captain that is a Company Commander is > authorized to carry a pistol. When the Company Commander relinquishes > his command and moves to be an Assistant S-3 he will give up his > pistol and be authorized to carry an M16. Here in Oz the almost reverse is true. Most infantry officers below Battalion CO in the infantry will attempt to carry a long arm (rifle) rather than a short arm (pistol). Why? Because in Vietnam it was found that snipers could identify officers by the absence of a rifle and would attempt to pick them off, while it was also understood that every extra rifle would come in handy in a firefight if the worst came to the worst. In Vietnam even Chaplains would quite often carry a rifle (unloaded) so that snipers wouldn't pick on them, mistaking them for officers. For the much the same reason, what the US Army would call "specialists" like signallers, weapons crew, etc, here would not normally carry a pistol. They would carry a rifle/SMG instead. Either to prevent them from being picked out by snipers (such as would be the case of signallers) or because if they have to defend themselves a pistol is almost always useless. Even in what would normally be considered "rear area" units, personel carry rifles or SMG's rather than pistols. Speaking of snipers and so on, here in Oz if you are what is considered "tactical" (ie psuedo-operational) you would not salute officers, as it would again mark them for snipers. At the same time in many infantry units to prevent people being identified from a distance as being officers/NCO's badges of rank are removed. I was wondering if similar precautions are normally taken by the US Army? > sleep-shirt A what? For use in the field? You got to be kidding. -- Brian Ross