Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!apple!veritas!amdcad!amdcad!military From: eachus@largo.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Definitions of naval vessel types? Message-ID: <1991May4.020831.19998@amd.com> Date: 4 May 91 03:09:00 GMT Sender: military@amd.com Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA. Lines: 51 Approved: military@amd.com From: eachus@largo.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) Once upon a time (WWII) we had in order of increasing size: DE(destroyer escort), DD(destroyer), CL (light cruiser), CA (heavy cruiser), battle cruisers (BC and CC were I think both used, but the US only built a couple), battleships (BB) plus aircraft carriers (CV and CVA for auxiliary), submarines (SS) and support ships. A World War II light cruiser was in the 6000 ton range with 5 or 6" guns. Destroyers were much lighter (about 2500 tons tops) and were usually equipped with 3" or 4" guns until the immanence of war convince Congress and the Navy that we needed lots of ships FAST, and with lots of firepower. The trading of 99 destroyers to the Brittish implied that what we needed was to replace these destroyers, but the Fletcher class destroyers heavily gunned and were more than a match for most light cruisers in the fleet. (Nine 5" guns, the same ones that are secondary armament on the active BB's.) They weren't designed for long range cruising however, but come the war, the did a lot of it. By the end of the war, the DD's had taken over most of the traditional cruiser roles, except as command ships for battle groups, and the American surface navy could be described as a lot of destroyers, with a smattering of battleships and aircraft carriers thrown in. Subsequent to the war the Navy has gone through a lot of twists and turns to get basically back to the pre-WWII situation. Frigates were originally introduced as big destroyers (but those frigates are once again called cruisers), and the current frigates are the size of pre-WWII destroyers and destroyer escorts, and fill the same role. So the mapping is: pre/early WWII now DE FF DD FFG CL DD/DDG CA CA BB BB The really confusing part is that some ships now designated as cruisers were built as destroyers or frigates. -- Robert I. Eachus with STANDARD_DISCLAIMER; use STANDARD_DISCLAIMER; function MESSAGE (TEXT: in CLEVER_IDEAS) return BETTER_IDEAS is...