Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!aero-c!nadel From: farmerl@handel.cs.colostate.edu (lisa ann farmer) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: the *isms Message-ID: <14622@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU> Date: 1 May 91 02:35:17 GMT Sender: news@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU Reply-To: farmerl@handel.cs.colostate.edu (lisa ann farmer) Organization: Colorado State University Lines: 24 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org I just remember something else that was emphasized in the seminar. (yea, I am the one who posted stuff about to be *ist you have to be in power). The point was made that it is useless to say that you aren't *ist, because some time in your life you probably had a *ist thought even if it wasn't conscious. For example, I have walked around campus at night quite a bit and if I see a male I get a little nervous- hold my keys tighter, etc. But if I see a black male I am more nervous. So I admit that I am racist because the power structure has taught me to think that this black man is more dangerous than a white man. I can never say that I am no longer racist because I don't know how deep what I have been taught goes. I think that there is also different levels of awareness that this info from the seminar hits. I am thinking of an example of someone who says "I am not sexist, I have lots of female friends." or " I am not homophobic, I know lots of gay people." Proving that you aren't something is (imo) silly. I think that the purpose of the seminar was to question your actions, your speech to see if it is *ist and to take the time to try and change those things in your life that are *ist. There is a wonderful book by Schaff called Women's Reality which discusses the White Male System (WMS) that discusses the male power system (some one asked what power meant I think.) Lisa farmerl@handel.cs.colostate.edu