Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: lshaw@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (logan shaw) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Do Jews need Jesus? Message-ID: Date: 2 May 91 08:28:56 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: The University of Texas at Austin Lines: 31 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article benning@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes: > ?_?_ Do Jews need Jesus _?_? > We must ask ourselves with all seriousness: If Jews do not need Jesus, then > who does? If we presume that G-d is competent, we have to answer the question > of why G-d would send a savior to the Jewish people when the savior was > needed by the gentiles and not the Jews. And if we can give a valid answer > to these questions, then surly they apply to other religions. The question > then becomes: Who really needs Jesus? If Jews don't need to be saved, why > was there Calvary? Was it a meaningless act? Did Jesus' suffering accomplish > anything? Doesn't all this trivialize the cross? While I don't pretend to know whether Judaism is still a route to salvation, I think it is possible that Jews have always been saved by the blood of Christ, it's just that they never knew it. I think God's plan of salvation is independant of time. Also note that people weren't saved by works in the Old Testament either. Abraham was saved by faith. (See Romans 4:3, Genesis 15:6) Perhaps if their hearts are right towards God, Jews can be saved. But there is still the question of whether Jews' hearts can be right with the Lord if they reject Jesus. At any rate, the best way to know you have salvation is to be a Christian. Adios, Logan -- // # "He said that He had your number; you cut the telephone line. \X/ # You said you needed a reason; He said 'there ain't much time.' Logan # You kept trying to avoid it; He kept knocking on the door. Shaw # In a flash it was over; you were a prisoner of war." -Rez Band