Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uunet!stanford.edu!agate!gold.cchem.berkeley.edu!marchi From: marchi@gold.cchem.berkeley.edu (Massimo Marchi) Newsgroups: trial.soc.culture.italian Subject: Re: L'Italia vista dagli USA Message-ID: <1991May2.174327.7475@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 2 May 91 17:43:27 GMT References: <6nygpvj@rpi.edu> <1991May1.202210.21418@agate.berkeley.edu> <1991May2.054523.19908@athena.mit.edu> Sender: root@agate.berkeley.edu (Charlie Root) Organization: Dept of Chemistry, University of California at Berkeley Lines: 39 In article <1991May2.054523.19908@athena.mit.edu> gennaro@athena.mit.edu (Rosario Gennaro) writes: >In article <1991May1.202210.21418@agate.berkeley.edu> cnrdean@booboo.berkeley.edu () writes: >>Why is Southern Italy so poor? The only time I visited Italy, my wife >>and I drove to Calabria (Castel Silano). I was amazed at the low >>standard of living. > >>the house (there was snow nearby), no telephones, few light fixtures,... > >Gee...when did you go there? > I don't think this is really the point. I don't know if today's Southern Italy is as poor as Samuel describes. It is definetely a poor region of our country. What is rather startling to me is that that surprised him so much. How far has he travelled the world? Has he ever been to the Appalachian mountains? Does he think that there the standard of living is higher than in Calabria? Too far away he says? It does not take travelling many miles in this country to find abject poverty and squallor. Has he ever driven to West or South Oakland (I gather he lives nearby)? Poverty is a reality in all societies. You can find it in any other European country as well(*). I would say that Samuel is either extremely naive or is trying to get a nasty reaction. Massimo (*) In France for instance it is well known that the poorest and most squallid part of the country is the Marseille area. In fact people there immigrate to inhospitable places such as the American Midwest, Indiana in particular, to escape poverty, degradation and tasteless food. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Massimo Marchi Lewis-112 marchi@gold.cchem.berkeley.edu University of California at Berkeley marchi@UCBCMSA.bitnet Berkeley, CA 94720