Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!bu.edu!m2c!risky.ecs.umass.edu!dime!yodaiken From: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Halting Problem Solved! Film at 11! (Was Re: definitions) Message-ID: <30281@dime.cs.umass.edu> Date: 8 May 91 23:54:51 GMT References: <2861@optima.cs.arizona.edu> Sender: news@dime.cs.umass.edu Reply-To: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Lines: 28 In article <2861@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gudeman@cs.arizona.edu (David Gudeman) writes: >Keep in mind that "state" in this sense refers to the entire body of >information accessible by the computer. If a computer runs out of >storage, you can always go buy another tape. Now there are two >possible ways to interpret the question of whether this gives the >computer unbounded storage: the practical and the theoretical. > >Whether this gives the computer _practical_ unbounded store depends on >your opinion of what is practical. If either you don't expect your >problems to run out of tape, or your problems are important enough >that you are willing to keep the computer supplied with all the tape >it needs, then the computer has a practically unbounded state space. >If you don't agree that the above is practical, then the computer has >a _practically_ bounded state space. > Corret me if I'm wrong, but it seems as if proving that a program will require at least the lifetime of the solar system to finish computing on a device that switches in the time it takes an electron to move 1 smallest measurable quanta, would be sufficient for most practical purposes. >If you want to get theoretical, then you can _theoretically_ keep >buying tapes until the world's supply of tape runs out. Then you can Of course, but now you are asking for a mathematical model which takes your behavior into account. This is a rather more involved question than the one we started with.