Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!gumby!smaug!cs.hope.edu!jipping From: jipping@cs.hope.edu (Mike Jipping) Subject: Re: X version of mush? Message-ID: <1991May6.121505.11107@cs.hope.edu> Sender: news@cs.hope.edu Reply-To: jipping@cs.hope.edu Organization: Hope College Dept. of Computer Science References: <12641@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> Date: Mon, 6 May 91 12:15:05 GMT > Are there any plans to port mush to Xwindows? I'm running Sun's > OpenWindows now and I'd like to have my mushtool back! This brings up an interesting question that's been in the back of my head for a while. Maybe the MUSH gurus can clear this up for me. (NOTE: this is not a flame, and I do not mean to offend. I'm just musing about something that's been on my mind.) I understand that MUSH as gone commercial -- in the form of ZipMail from Zipcode, Inc. (or is that Zipcode Software, Inc.?)? I've also read -- in this group -- that users and/or potential porters of MUSH are expressly forbidden from producing an X version of same. I understand that ZipMail is the X version of MUSH with some pretty funky enhancements. Given that the above is correct (please right me if it is not), I have some questions: (1) Can someone -- even the authors -- retroactively place restrictions on a piece software whose source has been placed in the public domain? (2) If so, what in the MUSH copyright allowed me to compile it and/or fix bugs I found in the first place? Has that changed now that restrictions have been placed on it? (3) Now, what about this --> using recently posted software, I can generate a Sun devGuide-compatible specification of a SunView application and eventually turn it into an OpenWindows application. (devGuide is a GUI design tool). By rearranging the buttons and windows, changing the code to match OpenWIndows/X semantics, and calling this MUST (Mail User's Shell Two), have I violated the restriction above. Since I have a non-enhanced version of MUSH, am I illegally in competition with Zipcode Software? I'm just musing. As someone who has benefitted greatly from public domain contributions (I'm using GNU Emacs to contruct this message!), and one who donates once in a while, I'm curious about these issues. Thanks for a discussion, and for not ad-hominem flaming. Mike Jipping Hope College Department of Computer Science jipping@cs.hope.edu (BITNET: JIPPING@HOPE) "Koo koo ka choo" -- Simon and Garfunkel, "Mrs. Robinson"