Xref: utzoo comp.periphs:3727 rec.music.cd:15869 rec.music.misc:69326 comp.misc:12453 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!ifistg!eyer@azu.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de From: eyer@azu.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Eyer) Newsgroups: comp.periphs,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc,comp.misc Subject: Re: card punches for storage Summary: A very BIG stack of cards Keywords: punch card CD Message-ID: <10515@ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: 8 May 91 08:09:56 GMT References: <52905@nigel.ee.udel.edu> <3048@cod.NOSC.MIL> Sender: news@ifistg.uucp Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, W. Germany Lines: 18 In article er1m+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ethan J. Rasiel) writes: >It seems to me that as far as long-term accuracy, the punch cards would >be most likely to survive the 25-year period. But the question is this: >exactly how many of those cards would be needed to store the equivalent >of one CD? For purposes of calculation, let's say a 45 minute long album. Well, 45 minutes are 2700 seconds, that is to say, about 108,000,000 samples. Let us say 110 millions. On a CD, a sample is 12 bits. A 'word' usually holds only 8 bits, but let us imagine you can put 12 bits. A card holds 80 'words', or columns (that's why Fortran has this silly columns requirements). So you will need about 1,375,000 cards. I don't know the exact heigh this would be, but if you estimate that 100 cards take 1cm (I think I under-estimate the number), it would be 137.5 meters !!! I prefer my little 13x13x.5 cm CD, and I don't need a huge (compared to a CD-player) card-reader. Anyway, using cards would require a reading speed of 500 cards/second. Does somedy know if this is realistic ? (I wonder...) Manu