Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!stanford.edu!morrow.stanford.edu!Mordor.Stanford.EDU!ari From: ari@Mordor.Stanford.EDU (Ari Ollikainen) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: Techno Terror Summary: Failure modes Message-ID: <1991May7.003221.8585@morrow.stanford.edu> Date: 7 May 91 00:32:21 GMT References: <9517@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL> Sender: news@morrow.stanford.edu (News Service) Reply-To: ari@Mordor.Stanford.EDU (Ari Ollikainen) Organization: Stanford University Lines: 22 I'm somewhat surprised that no one has commented on the potentially disasterous failure mode associated with proposed designs of automated highways: NO provision for vehicles stopping due to mechanical failure or running out of fuel! If the system doesn't power the vehicles it controls AND the power CAN be interrupted then the vehicle MAY become an uncontrolled obstacle in a fast moving stream of otherwise controlled vehicles. Imagine the repercussions of the system deciding to decelerate ALL traffic to avoid damage to the uncontrolled obstacle...Would the automated system just hand control of vehicles in the vicinity of the stalled vehicle back to the drivers and expect them to deal with the "perturbation" in flow? Before thinking about the possible effects of techno terrorism, I suggest we consider the elements necessary in the design and implementation of automated systems to make them operate safely in obvious failure situations... Ari Ollikainen Networking Technology Analyst ESnet/NERSC Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Ari@Pohjola.NERSC.GOV