Xref: utzoo comp.sys.3b1:1324 comp.dcom.modems:9627 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!olivea!apple!netcomsv!gandrews From: gandrews@netcom.COM (Greg Andrews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: help wrt UUCP between 3B1 OBM and TB Summary: NOT a Telebit bug! Message-ID: <1991May8.050834.8164@netcom.COM> Date: 8 May 91 05:08:34 GMT References: <1991May4.210605.28387@sceard.Sceard.COM> <1991May5.121256.4453@blilly.UUCP> Sender: netnews@netcom.COM (USENET Administration) Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services UNIX System {408 241-9760 guest} Lines: 42 In article <1991May5.121256.4453@blilly.UUCP> bruce@balilly (Bruce Lilly) writes: > >This is a well-known problem with Telebit modems (at least the TB+) when >operated with the interface speed locked. The Telebit puts out a >non-standard signal, which causes the 3B1's built-in modem to receive >garbage (the 3B1's OBM is rather intolerant of non-standard signals). >Telebit refers to this bug as "bit-shaving". > >Your options are: >1) don't operate the Telebit's with interface speed locked >2) try to get Telebit to fix the problem (1-800-TEL-EBIT) (good luck) >3) trade in the Telebits for another brand of modem >4) use an external modem on the 3B1 which will accept the Telebit's > non-standard timing > "Good Luck" is a pretty good sentiment. Why? Because it's NOT a Telebit bug. Bruce, you can call it Telebit's "problem" and "non-standard timing" all day long, but that's simply not the case. As I mentioned in my other article, Stop Bit Deletion (and the corresponding Stop Bit Insertion) are a part of the modulation spec. The modem that can't handle re-inserting the stop bit is the one with the problem. Telebit modems can handle Stop Bit Insertion - guess which modem has the problem? As I'm at home tonight, I can't quote chapter and verse from the specs on this, but you can be certain that I will find it and quote it for you. If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll eat my words on it. My last posting was wrong on one point: Telebit modems perform Stop Bit Deletion in the Bell 212 and V.22 (1200 bps) modulations also - not just V.22bis (2400 bps). > > Bruce Lilly blilly!balilly!bruce@sonyd1.Broadcast.Sony.COM > -- .------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Greg Andrews | UUCP: {apple,amdahl,claris}!netcom!gandrews | | | Internet: gandrews@netcom.COM | `------------------------------------------------------------------------'