Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken!aunro!ukma!psuvax1!news From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: It's really tough to debate with ignorant... Message-ID: <8raGbu-=1@cs.psu.edu> Date: 4 May 91 16:03:19 GMT References: <0o9Gv_t+1@cs.psu.edu> <11737@uwm.edu> Sender: news@cs.psu.edu (Usenet) Organization: Penn State Computer Science Lines: 71 In-Reply-To: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu's message of 3 May 91 19:47:04 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: sunws5.sys.cs.psu.edu (Gregory R Block) writes: I wasn't the one crying out. And of course the majority of people who do Word Processing don't use WP because it doesn't have any graphics support. THat doesn't mean I don't want WP. It just means that I want it better than it exists now. And what of the people that bought it? You think they want to go and buy another just because it sucked? No, now that they're here, I want continued support. WP dropped the amiga because their product sucked. All of the magazines said so. And nobody except for the few bought it. Frankly, there are lots of better wp's than WP. I use PenPal, and there's many others... Of course, you've never used a one of them, so watch the comments. I'm just repeating what Amiga zealots have told me. Word processing is weak on the Amiga. That's a tad too large for an executable. I understand now why you think like you do. Of course, I pity you. If you need that much space on your hard disk for one application, you need much more storage than is easily attainable by your greedy little hands, I take it... I imagine the NeXT might actually be decent when you use a 1.2 GB drive. How many apps have your purchased for your Amiga? The smallest HD that NeXT ships with there machines is 105MB, of which you have 20-40MB free. NeXT sells 105MB, 200MB, 400MB, and 600MB systems, if you want more disk space. Also, drives are getting cheap, you can buy a 660MB drive for around $1500, if you buy from a third party. Of course, flames aren't necessary, and if you feel it necessary to use them, be my guest, but I won't stand idly by, either. I can chew your shaggy, ugly butt out as easily as the next guy. And frankly, I'm sure I can do things with my Amiga that you probably couldn't think of... You don't have IPC, do you? Or large amounts of software? Of course, the NeXT has IPC. What do you consider to be a large amount of software? How much good productivity software can you get for the Amiga? And at least I can relax with a game. Either you are seriously sexually repressed, or you could use a vacation. Even a computer as sorry as a Mac can do the things you say, albeit for more money, assuming you don't get the Next with 16mb of ram and a 1.2 gb hd to hold your system software... And even then they'll have color on you. 24 bit, not that 12 bit crap. Christ, even the lowly Amiga has $500 24 bit color... Sway your comments toward dev/null, pal. I'm sure your system will appreciate the only support it will get. Ok, am I missing something or am I arguing with an idiot? The Amiga 500 and friends(A3000 is better...) have 4096 colors which is the same as the NeXTstation color. 2^12 = 4096. It's pretty bad when a user of a different brand of computer has to give you the facts about your machine. Let's get this straight, the 105MB NeXT does hold all of the system software. Otherwise, it would boot up when you turned the power on. The 20MB of demos, source and examples aren't system software. The average Joe is not going to need man pages. Sooooooo, NeXT said let's leave them off so the machine doesn't cost as much. I think some of you guys should be required to take a written test before you are allowed on the net. I'm not saying that all Amiga people are ignorant, but some of you guys definitely are. -Mike God, I just wasted 15 minutes arguing with someone who doesn't know how many colors his computer has. What a time sucker?