Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!gblock From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: It's really tough to debate with ignorant... Message-ID: <11772@uwm.edu> Date: 4 May 91 19:57:35 GMT References: <8raGbu-=1@cs.psu.edu> Sender: news@uwm.edu Reply-To: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Lines: 80 Originator: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu From article <8raGbu-=1@cs.psu.edu>, by melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger): > I'm just repeating what Amiga zealots have told me. Word processing > is weak on the Amiga. Then you were told wrong, and based your "facts" on hearsay. Sounds like a convincing case, your honor. > How many apps have your purchased for your Amiga? The smallest HD > that NeXT ships with there machines is 105MB, of which you have > 20-40MB free. NeXT sells 105MB, 200MB, 400MB, and 600MB systems, if > you want more disk space. Yes, 20-40mb free, but it doesn't have enough space for everything. Why not just go all the way, and get a few 1.2 gb hard drives??? I imagine that the 20-40 mb is excluding swap-space for vm? > > Also, drives are getting cheap, you can buy a 660MB drive for around > $1500, if you buy from a third party. That would be fine, if it wasn't nExt-to-necessary to buy one. > Of course, the NeXT has IPC. What do you consider to be a large > amount of software? How much good productivity software can you get > for the Amiga? Name the application type, and someone can probably name two or three good packages. Can you say the same? > > Ok, am I missing something or am I arguing with an idiot? The Amiga Not unless you're talking to yourself again. > 500 and friends(A3000 is better...) have 4096 colors which is the same > as the NeXTstation color. 2^12 = 4096. It's pretty bad when a user > of a different brand of computer has to give you the facts about your > machine. No kidding. Of course, the NEXTSTATION COLOR has that. And that's more money, and then you need a huge hard drive to hold the software, and that's more money.... and more ram, and that's more money... > > Let's get this straight, the 105MB NeXT does hold all of the system > software. Otherwise, it would boot up when you turned the power on. > The 20MB of demos, source and examples aren't system software. The > average Joe is not going to need man pages. Sooooooo, NeXT said let's I could slap you for that one. What do you mean, the average user won't need man pages? Have you lost your mind??? I even sometimes need them. I needed them when I started using workstations. I use them for references, sometimes. What about all of the other nifty software? And how's about all that workspace that's left??? I think maybe 105 mb wouldn't be enough given the things I like to do. I think maybe 650 might fill it nicely. I do a lot of graphics work. And that takes up space on a hard drive. > leave them off so the machine doesn't cost as much. Fooling the user into thinking he can have it all, and then realizing he needs more space to really sink his teeth into a nExt. > I think some of you guys should be required to take a written test > before you are allowed on the net. I'm not saying that all Amiga > people are ignorant, but some of you guys definitely are. And I think maybe you should know more about what you talk about than just what you hear from other users... > God, I just wasted 15 minutes arguing with someone who doesn't know > how many colors his computer has. What a time sucker? I don't remember saying I don't know how many colors my computer has. If you can't realize that, you have problems. I was referring to the average NeXT buyer, and his mono system... -- All opinions are my own, and not those of my employer. Why? He doesn't know I'm doing this. -Wubba