Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caen!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!gblock From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: It's really tough to debate with ignorant... Message-ID: <11785@uwm.edu> Date: 4 May 91 22:59:54 GMT References: Sender: news@uwm.edu Reply-To: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Lines: 95 Originator: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu From article , by melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger): > Everything is a lot of stuff. I filled up two optical disks(233MB > each) with everything. There is always more to get if you want it. Yes, but you have already shown us how easily 233 mb can be filled up. If an application can take up that much space, who knows how much else you could fill. Just because you filled up both doesn't equal numbers of applications... And I think maybe we could still beat you in quality software. If for no reason than the simple fact that we've been around longer. > Taxes, accounting, CAD, spreadsheets. NeXT only has two strong Cad is a lovely one for us. DynaCADD is one of the best cad packages in the computer world, ranging from the ST to the IBM, to the Mac, and now the Amiga. And it has more functions than any of the others on the Amiga version. Spreadsheets. Okay, lemme grab my handy Amigaworld, for listing any others than DBMAN V...And I belive SuperBase 4 Professional is supposed to be one of the best relational databases available... Presentation software: Scala beats all. Elan Performer is also nice. Showmaker isn't exactly left out, either. Multimedia: CanDO, AmigaVision, and a couple of others, not my forte, sorry. Music/Midi: Tiger Cub, KCS, DMCS, Master Tracks Pro, Bars & Pipes /Pro, one of the best out on ANY market, and you can ask Atlanta about that. And lots more here. I won't even begin to get into the graphics software. 3d: 3-D Professional, Turbo Silver SV, Imagine, Toaster/LightWave, and tons more. Oh yeah, the obvious: Sculpt-Animate 4d, with its predecessor on the Mac. And there's so many more. Tax. I don't do this on the Amiga, so I don't know much. TaxBreak by Oxxi is supposed to be okay, though. Word Processing. Tough one, there's a ton. Pen Pal, Excellence!, ProWrite, WP (sucks, but somewhat standard in other worlds), Office Gold, QuickWrite, Scribble, and more. DTP: PageStream, ProPage, ProScript (?), Saxon Publisher, and others. Any other categories you'd like to see listed? And I'm sure other people can list more. Do you even have this number of applications available TOTAL??? > contenders in one of these(spreadsheets). The rest are void. How > many top rated applications exist for the Amiga that are rated as good > as the ones for other computers? I've just listed a handful. > Are you the goof who doesn't know how many colors the Amiga has? No, I'm the goof who knows how many colors a NeXTStation doesn't. > 17" color monitors cost a lot. At a million pixels, how many colors > does the Amiga have? It is expensive, and I won't be buying one I admit. > It's mono. for me. But of course you can have it for the Amiga. You only have to wait until the graphics cards are available. And then you'll have a lot more than 4096 colors as a total palette. > Then you will have to buy a bigger hard disk or get another computer. > What do you use for a reference on the Amiga? Do you really thing > everyone needs the man page for fopen() online? No, but what if you do. That's right, I'd get another computer. One of the faster RISC stations, and probably pay as much as a COLOR NeXTStation. Actually, I'd probably get an A3000UX, because I wouldn't want to give up such a great real-time OS like AmigaOS 2.0. > NeXT publishes what is included on both the small release and the > Extended release of the softare. I don't see how they're misleading > anyone. You wouldn't. > You said the A500 had 24 bit color! You were wrong! > You're kidding, right? No, I'm not so stupid as to say something like that. I know how many colors the Amiga has, both in palette, and in HAM. Maybe you're thinking of someone else, then. Because I DEFINITELY did not say that. Maybe that color was CHEAPER, or it CAN have 24 bit color for $500 bucks, but NOT that it came with it. -- All opinions are my own, and not those of my employer. Why? He doesn't know I'm doing this. -Wubba