Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!rutgers!psuvax1!news From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: An interesting idea... Message-ID: <_g5Gy0x*1@cs.psu.edu> Date: 5 May 91 17:26:30 GMT References: <1991May3.200546.16303@sbcs.sunysb.edu> <1991May5.115329.24187@sugar.hackercorp.com> Sender: news@cs.psu.edu (Usenet) Organization: Penn State Computer Science Lines: 40 In-Reply-To: peter@sugar.hackercorp.com's message of 5 May 91 11:53:29 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: sunws5.sys.cs.psu.edu In article <1991May5.115329.24187@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: If I hear "educational discount" prices for the NeXT once more I'm going to scream. I shall go stark raving mad and I shall take you with me. We will be very happy together in a rubber room. I can get an 25MHz Amiga 3000 for $2200 with an eductational discount :-). Compare list price or nothing: even most students can't get that damn educational discount. Too few universities provide it. It's probably easier to get an Amiga developer's price! And most people who can afford a cube aren't students. Would you consider quoting $1875 as the price of the 3000 fair? That's what it costs right now. $200 less than I paid under the developer's program, I admit, but there you have it. That depends on the audience that you're talking to. It sounds to me like most of the people who I am arguing with are definitely college students. And you don't have to pay outrageous multi-user UNIX prices for software. I've got the NeXT product catalog. Those product prices are completely out of the question for mortals. The prices did seem a bit high, but they looked like standard business prices. $995 for FrameMaker(it's the same on the Mac, Sun and NeXT?). Packages like WP, Illustrator, Wingz, Improv,etc go from $395 to $695. Some of the RDMS were priced high, but that's because they're high-powered workstation RDMS. Stone Software has a low-end DBM. I'll have to call NeXT Connection to find out their current prices. Besides, this mere mortal doesn't need to buy all of that software. Most of the stuff that I use comes free with the NeXT or is available by anonymous ftp. The only thing that I considered buying was Diagram because it only costs $25 for students, and it retails for either $395 or $495. -Mike