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From: nwickham@triton.unm.edu (Neal C. Wickham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AMIGA
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Date: 6 May 91 18:01:59 GMT
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In article <5fDh02JY072Q01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L. Shephard) writes:


>
>Also for those of you talking about not being able to upgrade a NeXTslab;
>how many workstations are upgradeable?  

Thats very different.  Your talking about systems that are strictly p
professional and expensive and that have there own professional market
where they can be traded around like construction equipment.

>
>For those of you talking about executable bloat.  Look at a workstation
>like a SUN running X.  The executables are large.  If you have less than
>12-16meg of memory don't try to run much because it will crawl.  GUI code
>on UNIX takes memory both real to run and secondary (disk) to store.
>BTW - I have a PC and WP takes up a couple of megabytes on my PC harddrive
>so it's not a 'NeXT thing' for applications to take up diskspace.  Try
>running most new Mac and PC applications from floppy.  You can't because
>they fit on multiple floppies.


This thread about size started with Michael bragging about how big his 
files were.  I think the point from the Amiga side was that a big 
volume of code doesn't mean that it is better code. 

>
>The NeXT can hold its own against SPARC 1+ and 2s.  It places somewhere
>between the two depending on what benchmark you run.
>

NeXT is also somewhere between non-standard and Bohemian.



>'040s are shipping.  I upgraded my cube.


I've heard that the 040 still has some serious bugs in it but Jobs 
pressured Motorala into releasing it since NeXT is in some serious
trouble.  Does your 040 cube seem to crash more than the 030?

 
>BTW - For those of you who think that an '040 upgrade to the Amiga will
>be $800.  Don't count on it.  Motorola wants $700 a piece for the chip
>Qty 1000, paid in advance.  You add marketing, development, and manufact.
>cost and my guess is you will be well above $1400.  The cheapest Mac
>'040 board is above $2000.


So what is the point?  Did Steve Jobs cut a deal with Motorola to get
the 040s with bugs in for $600  ...or what? 


>KeNT
>--
>/*  -The opinions expressed are my own, not my employers.    */
>/*      For I can only express my own opinions.              */
>/*                                                           */
>/*   Kent L. Shephard  : email - kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com   */




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