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From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger)
Subject: Re: AMIGA
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In article <1991May06.180159.15298@ariel.unm.edu> nwickham@triton.unm.edu (Neal C. Wickham) writes:

   >
   >For those of you talking about executable bloat.  Look at a workstation
   >like a SUN running X.  The executables are large.  If you have less than
   >12-16meg of memory don't try to run much because it will crawl.  GUI code
   >on UNIX takes memory both real to run and secondary (disk) to store.
   >BTW - I have a PC and WP takes up a couple of megabytes on my PC harddrive
   >so it's not a 'NeXT thing' for applications to take up diskspace.  Try
   >running most new Mac and PC applications from floppy.  You can't because
   >they fit on multiple floppies.


   This thread about size started with Michael bragging about how big his 
   files were.  I think the point from the Amiga side was that a big 
   volume of code doesn't mean that it is better code. 

WRONG.  Someone said that he heard the NeXT executables were quite
large, so I showed him how big Improv was.  I wanted to know if they
were too large for him.

   >
   >The NeXT can hold its own against SPARC 1+ and 2s.  It places somewhere
   >between the two depending on what benchmark you run.
   >

   NeXT is also somewhere between non-standard and Bohemian.

The NeXT is the NeXT standard.  Be prepared.

   I've heard that the 040 still has some serious bugs in it but Jobs 
   pressured Motorala into releasing it since NeXT is in some serious
   trouble.  Does your 040 cube seem to crash more than the 030?

I have heard that this is not true.

   So what is the point?  Did Steve Jobs cut a deal with Motorola to get
   the 040s with bugs in for $600  ...or what? 

How is this contributing to the debate?  It's just a bunch crap, and
has nothing to do with the merits of the two computers.

-Mike