Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!udel!rochester!rutgers!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: AMIGA Message-ID: <21318@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 6 May 91 23:25:27 GMT References: <1991Jan10.082327.7378@rice.edu> <1991Jan10.095304.16900@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <1991Jan10.151816.13893@rice.edu> <1991Jan10.164423.23644@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <1991Jan10.194127.20625@rice.edu> <17564@cbmvax.commodore.com> <.v1G&v0*1@cs.psu.edu> Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Distribution: usa Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA Lines: 31 In article <.v1G&v0*1@cs.psu.edu> melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes: >In article <17564@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes: > that would have made far more impact for the same price than the DSP. > Especially a DSP that can't be used for mathematics; something most > Workstations just about require these days is at least 1.5-2 MFLOPS or better. >Dave! I didn't expect you to make such a big mistake! Aren't you an >engineer? The NeXT does at least 2.5MFLOPS. Well, I was speaking of the DSP itself. A 68040 could be said perhaps to peak at 2.5 MFLOPs. When running full 68882 code, it can sometimes perform reasonably well. At other times, it seems to go about as fast as an equivalent 68882, that is, 1/3 MFLOPS. Check out the latest UNIX Review for some numbers on one of the HP '040 machines. The HP machines are better 68040 machines than NeXT, plain and simple (of course, HP has for quite some time built the best 680x0 machines in any 680x0 generation). Perhaps NeXT and others will get new FPU code generators that manage this stuff without all those FPU traps. Even though the '040 has a few things that make trap handling better than in the past, they're still very inefficient. And yeah, I are an engineer. >-Mike -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy "That's me in the corner, that's me in the spotlight" -R.E.M.