Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!dali.cs.montana.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!csn!kessner!david From: david@kessner.denver.co.us (David Kessner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: 8-bit death Message-ID: <1991May7.064810.905@kessner.denver.co.us> Date: 7 May 91 06:48:10 GMT References: <1991May2.105802.26053@sugar.hackercorp.com> <1991May3.043704.10066@kessner.denver.co.us> <1991May5.024025.19463@sugar.hackercorp.com> Organization: Kessner, Inc. Lines: 55 In article <1991May5.024025.19463@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >Don't ask me. I didn't start it. Well who the hell did? Twasn't me (I didnt even join the discussion for a week or so after it started)... >> Perhapse another term should be 'generation', 'level', etc. > >I myself prefer dividing things between: > > "monitor" ROM resident, usually loads programs from tape. Provides > the services of simple I/O, execution control. > > "program loader" loaded from disk (usually), provides a file system, > program loading, execution control, simple I/O. > > "operating system" adds real device drivers and device independence, > memory and CPU time management. > > "protected O/S" adds resource tracking and protection. > > "multiuser O/S" adds privileged programs of some sort, permissions, > etc. > > "VM O/S" adds virtual memory to one of the above. > >DOS doesn't even qualify as an O/S to me. Neither does Mac OS, or any PC >system software prior to the Amiga. MS-DOS largely fits into the relm of "program loader". It does have some indications/hints of being an "operating system" (device drivers, third party of course, some device independance, etc) but largely fails in that respect. While not perfect, you table is _MUCH_ better than 8/16/32 bit... >> Why don't _YOU_ check your facts. I have programmed a PDP-11/23 and a >> MicroPDP-11/something, both running _Ultrix_. And I mean Ultrix. It says >> Ultrix when it boots, on the manuals, on the order forms, and many other >> places. C'mon, give me a break! > >Yes, I've been told that DEC sold V7 under that name. Ultrix -- UNIX with bugs. >Peter da Silva. `-_-' >. -- David Kessner - david@kessner.denver.co.us | do { 1135 Fairfax, Denver CO 80220 (303) 377-1801 (p.m.) | . . . If you cant flame MS-DOS, who can you flame? | } while( jones);