Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!ucla-cs!ewa.cs.ucla.edu!michael From: michael@ewa.cs.ucla.edu (michael gersten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications Subject: Re: Kickstart 2.0 Message-ID: <1991May7.015249.27337@cs.ucla.edu> Date: 7 May 91 01:52:49 GMT References: <21070@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1991May1.200820.46421@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr. News Himself) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 38 Nntp-Posting-Host: ewa.cs.ucla.edu In article <1991May1.200820.46421@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> wright%etsuvax2@ricevm1.rice.edu writes: >Yes, there are ways to run 2.0 on a machine without an MMU, but not with very >much stability. One wild program and your Kickstart is trashed. Not a good Really? Lets take a look at that. I used to use RAD:. I have used VD0: for a long time. I have never had VD0: wiped out by a wild program. I've lost my clock a couple of times. I've even had to reboot to play some games, and VD0: was still there later when I came back. I've had my screen go kapui. I've gotton machine lock ups with nothing working. The only time that VD0 goes away on me is when I say deleteramdisk or power off. RAD: was almost as reliable as this -- the 1.3 double reboot bug lost it a few times, it got wiped by a runaway program once. Incompatibilities with two other programs made me stop using it. (I hope these have been fixed by now--one was aztec C 3.6, the other was word perfect, about 2 years old at this point.) The point? Both VD0 and RAD use a simple feature of CHECKSUMS to insure that the data hasn't changed. Why not just have the RAM version do a checksum of itself, and if it finds it different, go back to the default kickstart? (I think the kickstart code does this already, I know that my old 1000 would checksum kickstart at each reboot). This is plenty of stability. Let me put it to you very simple. Either I get 2.0 in RAM legally, or illegally. I've never liked the idea of a ROM'd O/S. I like kickstart. Michael