Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!solo.csci.unt.edu!vaxb.acs.unt.edu!news From: wright@etsuv2.etsu.edu (BRIAN WRIGHT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia Subject: Re: AmigaVision & Pioneer cld-909 Message-ID: <1991May4.042405.46493@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> Date: 4 May 91 08:52:16 GMT References: <1991Apr29.231111.15694@athena.mit.edu> <21184@cbmvax.commodore.com> Reply-To: wright@etsuv2.etsu.edu Organization: East Texas State University Lines: 63 Nntp-Posting-Host: etsuv2.etsu.edu In article <21241@cbmvax.commodore.com>, karl@cbmvax.commodore.com (Karl Herrman - CATS) writes... >In article <1991Apr29.231111.15694@athena.mit.edu> leekil@athena.mit.edu (Lee 'S' Kilpatrick) writes: [Questions about 8 pin connectors for LD-707 and CLD-909 deleted] >I believe both of these machines are older Pioneer videodisc players. It is >possible that the command set used for the current Pioneer players is based on >the command used used for these. If this is the case what you can do is build >a serial cable from the Amiga to the 8-pin port on your players and then try >the various Pioneer drivers, the LDV2200 may be your best bet. You still may >not be able to access all the functions available in AmigaVision, but if the >basic functions work you can still work around most of the more advanced >functions. > >The other potential problem would be that these players only support the CLV >(Constant Linear Velocity) format videodisc. If they do not support the CAV >(Constant Angular Velocity) format you won't be able to access the disc on a >frame-by-frame basis, which is needed for Still frames and exact access to the >disc. If the LD-707 is any cousin to the LD-700 then the 707 supports CAV AND CLV. I know the CLD-909 does. I used to have one. I now have a CLD-1030 stricken of the access port. As far as I know, Pioneer has never manufactured a CLV only player. As far as the 8 pin ports on these models go, ALL consumer models that I have ever seen from Pioneer, have these strange 8 pin ports (the ones that have a port that is). From all the catalogs I have seen, Pioneer offers some kind of interface device from the LD player to the computer. It is possible, however, that direct cabling might work. I just can't say. I'd imagine that the interface device is probably extinct. It'd be wise to not try to ask your favorite electronics store for it. Whether or not the 8 pin connector supports all the functions the player can is still a large mystery as I have never seen anyone interface one. As for all the players that AmigaVision supports, I believe that most of them are the industrial players. Although a few consumer models (other than Pioneer) could possibly have the serial port. I have yet to see a consumer Pioneer model to have a 25 pin serial connector port. FYI, I have had consumer players from the Pioneer LD-1100, to Magnavox's LD-700 clone, then on to the CLD-909 and finally the CLD 1030. None of these models (two of which had ports) had the 'standard' serial port connector. I always considered the 8 pin connector for the consumer models to be 'standard' and the 25 pin serial port to be 'nonstandard'. I guess that has changed now. I hope so, anyway. As far as Pioneer products, I steer clear and can't recommend them. Suffice it to say, personal reasons. If you have a choice of an LD player, go with Sony, Magnavox or Phillips. >I hope this helps. > >Karl Hermann >C.A.T.S. >Software Specialist -------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Wright wright%etsuvax2@ricevm1.rice.edu or wright@etsuvax2.bitnet -------------------------------------------------------------- Standard Disclaimer... not my words and all that jazz.