Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!att!princeton!njin!rutgers!cmcl2!adm!smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: What's wrong with my hard drive Message-ID: <16075@smoke.brl.mil> Date: 8 May 91 02:02:22 GMT References: <48477@ut-emx.uucp> <52478@apple.Apple.COM> <1991May6.010943.5215@utstat.uucp> Organization: U.S. Army Ballistic Research Laboratory, APG, MD. Lines: 29 In article <1991May6.010943.5215@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes: >Bottom line: should I remove the terminator from my drive or not!? We've been through this before, so to simply summarize BRIEFLY: Electrically, there should be termination at both ends of the SCSI bus and nowhere in the middle of the bus. The "Rev C" SCSI Card did not provide termination; the "High-Speed SCSI Card" does provide termination. There was thus no ideal way to configure the Rev C SCSI subsystem, and Apple's recommendation was to put one terminator at the big end of the "Apple SCSI System Cable", which was as close to the Rev C Card as one could install an Apple SCSI terminator. In the case of only one device other than the SCSI interface attached to the SCSI bus, e.g. a single HD20SC, following that recommendation would put a single terminator at what happened to already be the "far" end of the bus, hardly ideal, but better than the alternatives. For "Rev C" subsystems with more than one SCSI peripheral, Apple recommended a second terminator at the far end of the bus (in addition to the one somewhat near the Rev C SCSI Card). The High-Speed (DMA) SCSI Card eliminates this nonsense, because it includes termination at its end of the SCSI bus, so regardless of the peripheral complement attached to a High-Speed SCSI subsystem, one adds just one terminator at the far end of the SCSI bus, always. (In all these descriptions I have assumed the devices are not supplying termination. Once one determines where the terminator(s) SHOULD be, then if there is a device plugged in at that spot one can use the drive's internal SCSI bus termination, if it provides it (normally a couple of flat resistor packs). Termination should be removed from all devices that are not being deliberately configured with termination to satisfy the "both ends terminated" SCSI bus requirement.)