Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!m.cs.uiuc.edu!roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!timothyg From: timothyg@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Timothy Gallivan) Subject: Re: PC Keyboards on 520ST Message-ID: <1991May6.162611.6987@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Originator: timothyg@harriett Sender: usenet@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois References: <1991May5.021400.2886@nmt.edu> Date: Mon, 6 May 1991 16:26:11 GMT Lines: 67 In article <1991May5.021400.2886@nmt.edu>, jcksnsr@nmt.edu (JC) writes: |> |> In solution to my power supply "problem" I've decided to finally mount |> the 520 ST motherboard in a PC case with power supply... I can work out most |> of the details, but have one question... |> |> Does anyone know of a product that will let me connect an IBM keyboard to |> my 520 ST?? |> |> JEff I put my 520ST in an IBM AT case. The motherboard, two floppies, a SCSI board, two keyboards, and a hard drive all run off the same power supply. Figuring out what to do with the keyboard was the biggest mess in this deal. The main problem is that, no matter what, you have to leave the original ST keyboard connected. It has chips on it that the motherboard needs. BUT, there is probably not enough space in the case to leave the original keyboard inside. As far as I know, these are your choices: 1) Connect a long cable to the original ST keyboard. This is simple to do, but you have to figure out how to make some kind of case for the keyboard (maybe out of wood). Also, you are stuck with the same lousy keyboard. 2) Get an IBM keyboard adapter. This way you get a better keyboard, but you still have to deal with the original ST keyboard. This can also be expensive. The Z-Keys adaptor was about $100 the last time I checked. I think there are others now, but I don't know how much they cost. On top of this, you have to buy an IBM keyboard. 3) There are instructions on the network in a file called 'deckey' (or something like that) for connecting a DEC LK201 keyboard to the ST midi or serial ports. A small software driver is included. The midi port connection requires a small hardware mod to change the baud rate of the midi port, but the serial connection requires no modifications. Unfortunately, using the keyboard on the serial port will exclude the use of a modem, and this is generally unacceptable. I am not particularly fond of the LK201, but I think that any DEC compatible keyboard will work, so maybe you can find one you like. They tend to be more expensive than IBM keyboards, I got a used one for $100. I did both 1 and 3. The DEC keyboard is hooked to my midi port, and the two keyboards function in parallel. The modification is easy to make for someone with electronics experience, and I had no trouble. It will take you a bit of time and some patience though. I added a switch so that I can change back to the original midi baud rate if required. The software driver is small (~1K) and very stable. I have never had any conflicts with the software that I use (but screen savers which look for keyboard input may not see this keyboard, and thus may kick in when you are typing). Moving the ST to the IBM case was a bit of a chore, but I am happy with the result. Most of the effort goes into making the cables needed to extend all the ST ports to the back of the IBM case. Parts can be hard to find, but Best Electronics will generally have anything that you can't find locally. I strongly recommend doing the move/modifications one step at a time, making sure that the ST works at each step. Good Luck! Tim Gallivan National Center for Supercomputing Applications University of Illinois timothyg@ncsa.uiuc.edu ports to the back of the