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From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Motif app window decorations under OLWM
Message-ID: <1991May6.145603.19225@alphalpha.com>
Date: 6 May 91 14:56:03 GMT
References: <9105031949.AA12967@trantor.Eng.Sun.COM>
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In article <9105031949.AA12967@trantor.Eng.Sun.COM> Stuart.Marks@eng.sun.COM (Stuart Marks) writes:
>I believe this occurs because Motif dialog boxes set the WM_TRANSIENT_FOR
>hint.  Olwm (from OpenWindows 2.0) gives transient windows very little
>decoration.  There's no way to change this in that version of olwm.
Well that's novel.  Are there any plans to handle mapping/unmapping
and iconization using that resource too?

>There may be a resource you can set to tell Motif not to set the
>WM_TRANSIENT_FOR hint.  I know Frame has such a resource, but I don't know
>about Motif in general.  Perhaps a Motif expert can respond.
You can of course use the standard X mechanisms to take it off, although
you'd have to do it after the dialog was created - I don't know if
that would matter to olwm.  Of course then you have the problem
that with other window managers WM_TRANSIENT_FOR does some useful
things (like unmapping the dialog when you iconize the window it's
transient for, or making sure it's not obscured) - so you probably don't
want to turn it off all the time.  I assume that's why Frame was 
forced to make it a user-definable resource.

While we're finding out interesting things about owlm, can anyone
tell me why this code results in a icon with no iconname?

            hints = XGetWMHints(XtDisplay(shell), XtWindow(shell));
            if (!hints) {
                hints = (XWMHints *) XtMalloc(sizeof(XWMHints));
                bzero(hints, sizeof(XWMHints));
            }
            hints->flags = IconWindowHint;
            hints->icon_window = iconWindow;
            XSetWMHints(dpy, XtWindow(shell), hints);
            XtFree(hints);

and later

        ctext = XmInternAtom(XtDisplay(widget), "STRING", False);
        iname = XmInternAtom(XtDisplay(widget), "WM_ICON_NAME", False);
        XChangeProperty(XtDisplay(widget), XtWindow(widget), iname, ctext,
                        8, PropModeReplace, (byte *) cptr, strlen(cptr));

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