Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uunet!olivea!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!David.Andrews From: David.Andrews@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Andrews) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Getting Assistance Message-ID: <19161@bunker.isc-br.com> Date: 4 May 91 04:12:26 GMT Sender: news@bunker.isc-br.com Reply-To: David.Andrews@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA Lines: 57 Approved: wtm@bunker.hcap.fidonet.org Index Number: 15373 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] WS> People usually tell us when we travel, that we are so WS> nice. We are not like some those other blind people we come WS> in contact with. I guess if you want to be thought of in that WS> manner, just continue on, and fight your way through life. WS> Frankly, I would rather get along with people, and usually get WS> what I want to get. AS some one else said on here, that there WS> are more things with higher priorities, than those trivial WS> matters. Those higher priorities like unimployment, should WS> take more of our energy. And, you know something life is a WS> lot brighter. Walter, There is of course the proper time to fight something, and the proper time to go along. Each of us must make that judgment as we go through our daily life. Each of us is going to do it differently, as we see from the different messages here. You basically say that a blind person fighting against unwanted help is a trivial matter. I don't agree. The help that someone offers you, and feels that you need, is directly related to the opportunities he/she, and society is going to offer you. If someone feels that blind persons can't safely travel alone, or use an escalator for example, and if their building has an escalator, then they are going to feel that blind people can't work in their building. We will ultimately get people jobs by changing their attitudes about blindness, not by passing laws that say you must hire us. Obviously, we can't snap at everyone that offers us help. There are better and worse ways to handle these situations. One of the things that this Echo can do is allow us to exchange ideas about how to do so. This is also something that groups, such as the NFB and ACB can also do. You said that people tell you and your wife that you are nicer then other blind people they have met. This is because you are matching their expectations for passive, accept any help that is offered, blind persons. People basically have good motives and want to feel good when they offer assistance. They sometimes get offended when it is turned down, even when it is turned down nicely. We are saying I don't need your help, and that doesn't match their image of blind people as helpless. This makes them uncomfortable. You must lead your life in the way in which your are uncomfortable, accepting help, or not, as you see fit. I am not trying to be critical of you for that. Likewise, you should accept that there are those of us who are not going to accept all offered help, simply because it is offered. ... David Andrews -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!David.Andrews Internet: David.Andrews@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org