Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!hsdndev!cfa203!thakur From: jimomura@lsuc.on.ca (Jim Omura) Newsgroups: rec.arts.cinema Subject: Musicals (Astaire & Durbin) Message-ID: <1991May8.071732.11998@zerkalo.harvard.edu> Date: 8 May 91 07:17:32 GMT Sender: thakur@cfa.harvard.edu (Manavendra K. Thakur) Reply-To: jimomura@lsuc.on.ca (Jim Omura) Followup-To: rec.arts.cinema Organization: Consultant, Toronto Lines: 77 Approved: thakur@zerkalo.harvard.edu [ Moderator's note: Contrary to what some might believe, rec.arts.cinema never went away. There hasn't been any traffic in the newsgroup for some time, but that's only because no one has submitted any articles appropriate to the newsgroup. If you're interested in musicals and would like to reply to Jim's article about musicals (or discuss any other issue related to cinema, for that matter), I would very much welcome your input. In this specific case, if you have some favorite musicals, please consider describing them in a posting. I'm sure readers would particularly be interested in your article if you could take a few moments to also explain *why* you consider them your favorites. And if you have the time, it'd be terrific if you could briefly discuss the merits they have over other films in the genre that you've seen. I look forward to hearing from many of you who have been silent for too long! -- MKT ] Musicals When I was growing up the only real chance I had to see musicals was on TV. They'd already pretty much disappeared from the theatres. But even then musicals were not my normal fare. I tended to watch the usual popular shows of the day. The only musicals I would try to watch were Bing Crosby. That narrowed it down to "Holiday Inn", "Bells of St Mary's", and "Going My Way" for years. Eventually I saw a "new" one called "White Christmas"! Fred Astaire? Oh yeah, well he danced really well in "Holiday Inn" . . . . So it was only very late in life that I started to see the wider scope of musicals. I owe this to Public Television (TV Ontario in Canada to be precise) and a work schedule that left me exhausted on Saturday nights. My two biggest discoveries were that Deanna Durbin had a voice that could make me sit down if I was standing up. If I had the opportunity to see her live at her peak I expect she could pull off the reverse as well (ie -- standing ovations almost manditory). And that Fred Astaire was probably the greatest "Musicals Star" the art form will ever see. I think in the long run, although I'm not a great collector of films I'd like to have a small collection of works by these two artists in particular. Unfortunately, I still haven't had a chance to research their works. I don't know how many films they did or the titles. So far, of the Fred Astaire pictures, I've bought "Top Hat" (starring Fred & Ginger). I have "Shall We Dance?" taped from TV, as well as "The Barkleys of Broadway". I think I want, probably 2 or 3 more of the best of Fred's work with Ginger Rogers. The Deanna Durbin films are more of a problem. There's no "hook" I can look for to tell which of her works I'd want to get. I've taped "Three Smart Girls", "Three Smart Girls Grow Up", "100 Men and a Girl" and "Christmas Holiday" from TV. I tried to tape "It Started With Eve", but I botched that taping. Of these, my favorites are the latter two. "It Started With Eve" probably had her at her best. She's mature and I think her voice was better as she got older. She's better looking too. Well, *I'm* older, so that probably has something to do with that opinion. :-) Bob Cummings and Charles Loughton are also great in supporting roles. "Christmas Holiday" on the otherhand is a stunning piece of Cinema Noire and not a musical at all. Oh, she gets to sing a number, but that doesn't make it a musical anymore than Casa Blanca. The movie is also notable for having Gene Kelly as a murdering "bad guy". Kelly's performance was, maybe a tad over stylized, but not so much as to detract significantly. He does achieve a menacing presence. Anyway, that's probably the extent of what I know about black and white musicals. Any advice or opinions on musicals to look for would be most welcome! -- Jim Omura, 2A King George's Drive, Toronto, (416) 652-3880 lsuc!jimomura Byte Information eXchange: jimomura