Newsgroups: sci.electronics Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!uupsi!rodan.acs.syr.edu!amichiel From: amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen) Subject: Re: Re: Microwave Water Heater Message-ID: <1991May6.211620.6876@rodan.acs.syr.edu> Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY References: <1991Apr28.182011.3357@rodan.acs.syr.edu> <7480018@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> <1991May6.152846.16704@tc.fluke.COM> Date: Mon, 6 May 91 21:16:20 GMT In article <@tc.fluke.COM> strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong) writes: >In article @hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> rogerm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Roger Mitchell) >}restiance heating elements are nearly 100 % efficent in this application >Yes. Too bad the process of turning coal into electricity and delivering >it to your plug is only 25% efficient. :-( In Steam by Babcock & Wilcox 38th edition, it is implied that 85-89% is to be expected. The materials presented in undergraduate classes suggests this is optimistic, but a lower working limit of 65% is used. Then both Marks and Cooks Reference books use a working number of 80% for Transmission systems. That would make a working minimum value approaching 50% not 25%. Then it would only be fair to compare a microwave 'oven' and a antique resistance heating element in this application. It shouldn't take a lot of work to see that the antique is much higher than the microwave. al -- Al. Michielsen, Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering, Syracuse University InterNet: amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu amichiel@sunrise.acs.syr.edu Bitnet: AMICHIEL@SUNRISE