Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!hlab From: kilian@poplar.cray.com (Alan Kilian) Newsgroups: sci.virtual-worlds Subject: New sensory modalities (Seeing stress) Message-ID: <1991May6.203330.11375@milton.u.washington.edu> Date: 6 May 91 18:21:09 GMT Sender: hlab@milton.u.washington.edu (Human Int. Technology Lab) Organization: University of Washington Lines: 97 Approved: cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu Let's talk a bit about "New sensory modalities". I looked up all of these words in the dictionary and this is my interpretation of the phrase: The following is from the second college edition of the American Heritage Dictionary Copyright 1982 New - We all know what this means. Sensory - 1. Of or pertaining to the senses or sensation. 2. Transmitting impulses from the sense organs to nerve centers. Modality - (From modal which is from mode) 1a. Manner, way, or method of doing or acting. (Either that or 3a. Any of certain arrangements of the diatonic tones of an octave. But I doubt it) So "New sensory modalities" can be either: (new sensory) modalities or New (sensory modalities). (new sensory) modalities: This seems to be new senses. "The fifth sense" or some mysterious ESP thing. Directly detecting stress or magnetic fields would be in this class. I do not believe any of this. VR will not give people new senses of this class. New (sensory modalities): This seems to be the interpretation of our normal senses. So when you learn to recognize an igneous rock in a group of sedimentary rocks this is a New (sensory mode) It's the "Detect igneous rock mode" So what's all the hype? We learn these things every day. (You do learn something new every day don't you?) VR will be able to help teach these modes. I am not convinced that VR can teach them better than a map of where the different types of rocks are but that remains to be seen. Now this whole discussion started when Christopher said: >From: seguine@girtab.usc.edu (Christopher Seguine) >For example if one is in >VR and is constantly given the ability to see magnetic fields, >once he removes the goggles will his senses pick up on this >ability and be able to see the fields in reality? and I responded: No. The human eye is not sensitive to normal strength magnetic fields. Sorry. And now people are trying to make up ways to see stress. Guess what? It isn't going to work. YOU CANNOT SEE STRESS. O.K. What about that science museum demonstration where they take a piece of flexible transparent material and use a polarizer to illuminate it with polarized light and then you can see color changes corresponding to the internal stress then? Well, you are detecting colored light. It's the polarized light and the material that detect the stress and convert it into colors for you to interpret. VR and electrical stress detectors can do this for you also but you are not detecting the stress. O.K. but what about if a metal bar is bent due to the stress? You can detect bent metal bars and infer the stress but the bar just might have been bent by a force which is no longer present and you would interpret the bent bar as being under stress which would not be correct. Stress is also not a surface effect. It is internal to the material and therefore is not available optically on the surface of an opaque material. I'll just keep saying it. "You cannot see stress". VR is not magic. It is not going to teach people to detect things they cannot normally detect. Maybe it can be used to teach people to notice subtle optical effects and infer their cause. Maybe it can be used to teach people to hear notes and transcribe music by listening to it. VR can be hooked to other sensors and present the sensors information in a novel way. Fire fighters "seeing" the temperature on a door by having the door's temperature detected by a thermometer (Or some infrared sensor) and having the VR system paste up a message like "This door is 123.4 degrees" and the fire fighter can say "Yipes I'd better not touch this door" So let's all start getting a little less stress O.K. Now I'm going to run this through a spelling checker and I'll correct my mistakes and put little (sic)s by everyone else's mistakes and no one should get too testy about that right? Everyone spell checks their articles before submitting them don't they? -Alan "I do solemnly swear not to break any physical laws" Kilian -Alan Kilian kilian@cray.com 612.683.5499 Cray Research, Inc. | If god had meant us to use the metric system 655 F Lone Oak Drive | he would have given us ten finger and ten Eagan MN, 55121 | toes. The author of _Lighter Elements_