Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: gannon@MDI.COM (Alden Gannon) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: "64 cents!" (Was Re: The problem in academia) Message-ID: <1991May7.205934.3343@MDI.COM> Date: 7 May 91 21:33:14 GMT References: <.005737.22242@informix.com>> <1991May1.165702.21235@MDI.COM> <673368117@lear.cs.duke.edu> Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA Lines: 36 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: blanche.ics.uci.edu In article <673368117@lear.cs.duke.edu> gazit@cs.duke.EDU (Hillel Gazit) writes: >In article <1991May1.165702.21235@MDI.COM> COM (Alden Gannon) writes: >#At some point down the road, A acquires skill level 2 in field X, >#which commands a mean $30K in the industry (A is already getting >#$30K), and finds himself/herself looking for a job again (the company >#had financial troubles, A had to move, A was unsatisfied, etc.). A >#will quickly find that A's $30K salary is a detriment. A can't get >#skill level 2 jobs, because applicants with skill level 2 who got $25K >#jobs right out of college will be favored. Further, A can't get skill >#level 3 jobs, because A will be screened on qualifications, not >#salary. Even worse, A can't even step back and take a skill level 1 >#job, because qualified entry-level candidates surely have had a lower >#income than $30K. > >You assume that A's extra education/experience has no influence >on his qualification, an assumption that I don't accept. I understand you to mean that A can compete for skill level 3 jobs. Good point, Hillel, and you win half of the argument with it. However, what about blind luck? A gets the $30K job right out of college for no reason besides there being no outstanding applicants. Now, A is unfairly disadvantaged. A is average, but has a "less than average" chance of getting the next job. Also, there was another post proposing differences in affluent and indigent college students, which I thought was a pretty good argument. How do you answer that one? [Note to moderators: Although this thread has adopted an abstract example ('A' instead of Black/Woman/etc.), I believe any debate on AA fits squarely in the realm of feminist issues.] -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alden B. Gannon, a.k.a. Zarathustra. INTERNET: gannon%mdi.com@uunet.uu.net "Gotta find a woman be good to me, USENET: ..uunet!mdi.com!gannon Won't hide my liquor, try to serve me tea." --Grateful Dead.