Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uunet!seismo!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: dmp@iowa.epg.harris.com (Donald Patterson) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Not Straight to Heaven - Re: Believers Life after Death Message-ID: Date: 5 May 91 02:19:27 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Harris Corp. EPG (Engr. Productivity Group) Lines: 23 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu Perhaps a simple way to reconcile the *seemingly* contradictory arguments that have been posted on this subject: the moment we die, we leave space-time as we understand it. That is, we are no longer *in* time. If this is true, it would be perfectly proper to say we are with Jesus the moment we die, and also that we all stand before the judgement seet of Christ at *the* `time' of judgement. Since we are presently bound by time, I have explained this `theory' in this way: the moment you die, you are `zapped' forward in time to the judgement at the end of `time'. Also *because* we are `in' time, it becomes impossible to say whether grandma is `now' with Jesus. Grandma left space-time the moment she died, and immediately faced Christ... but if we had to plot out a time line (which is the only way we can understand existence this side of eternity), Grandma is in a `wait state', or is *being zapped*. This is only my opinion, but is is the only way I can reconcile several of the scriptures cited in this discussion. I'd be very interested in comments. ______________________________________________________________________________ Don Patterson, Iowa'82 \\ INTERNET : dmp@epg.harris.com | _ _ | Harris Corporation \\ UUCP : ...!uunet!x102a!dpatterson |_| |_| | | Engr. Productivity Group \\ CCMAIL : DPatters |==============|_/\/\/\|_| 1025 W. Nasa Blvd., MS 3a \\ VOICE : (407) 727-6058 | WON BY ONE + | |_| |_| | Melbourne, FL 32919 \\ FAX : (407) 727-5510 | | |_________|