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From: dfields@radium.urbana.mcd.mot.com (David Fields)
Newsgroups: comp.bugs.sys5
Subject: Re: Unix 5.4 and ulimit
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Date: 10 May 91 16:52:26 GMT
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In article <1991May8.183914.3059@eci386.uucp>, woods@eci386.uucp (Greg
A. Woods) writes:
>In article <2550@urbana.mcd.mot.com> dfields@urbana.mcd.mot.com writes:
	<text deleted>
>>  Of course any vendor can change these however they feel as there
>> isn't an standard as yet.  There is also great incentive to change this
>> as it's not a simple interface.
>
>There should be *great* incentive for every vendor not to change
>anything at the user/administrator level at all!  The entire O/S is a
>standard, as specified by the reference ports from UI.  Any vendor who
>attempts to claim otherwise and provide their own "custom"
>"enhancements" brings serious doubt to their commitment.
	< more text deleted >

I agree in principal but the reality is that while UI is working
on this it isn't finished and people need to ship usable products
now.  The administration interface has traditionaly been an
are that many vendors have changed to be more suitable to the
percieved needs of their customer base.

	<the "it" below refers to kernel configuration>
>Just why do you think it's not simple anyway?  I presume it's tied
>into FACE for those who don't/can't read the manual and do it the
>"real" way.

You presume wrong.

>Scary that you should say that.  Actually I've heard the 3b2 port runs
>quite well.  I'd run it on my 3b2 if I could get it for < $7,000(US)!

Two points here the reference port from USL is not the AT&T product
and "runs quite well" is a relative term associated with how you use
a system.  The same system which may be stable with 3 users in a
a software development environment may be very unstable with 30 users
using a database.

Let me point out that I haven't used a 3b2 reference port very much,
I've just seen the number of changes from the last 3b2 port to the
latest 386 reference from USL.

Dave