Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!pacbell.com!lll-winken!telecom-request From: holos0!wdh@gatech.edu (Weaver Hickerson) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: 50k Counts of Wire Fraud Message-ID: Date: 9 May 91 18:38:09 GMT Sender: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Organization: Holos Software, Inc., Atlanta, GA Lines: 49 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 350, Message 3 of 10 In article 76012.300@compuserve.com (76012,300 Brad Hicks) writes: > Is it my imagination, or is wire fraud what the Secret Service > charges you with if they don't like you but can't think of anything > else? Is it my imagination, or is wire fraud what the SS charges you with when you have committed wire fraud? (Description of guy speed dialing exchanges to leave messages on pagers.) > Note that according to Eric Arnum, in this case an "entrepreneur" has > "victims". Entrepreneurs don't have victims, they have customers or > clients. Only criminals have victims. I'd say they were definitely victims, of a lowlife criminal. > The only other place I've seen this particular usage was from a > Communist Party member complaining about the black market in Moscow. > He meant the same thing, too: people paying fair market price for a > good or a service they received. > I see no lies and no coercion. The people who were charged got what > they paid for, a $55 audiotex message. Is there anybody in Manhattan > who can afford a pager who doesn't know that 540 numbers are toll > calls? If there are two thousand yuppie scum who are stupid enough to > return a page to a toll number, and they do this for no reason other > than that they were asked to, how can it possibly be illegal or even > unethical? Brad, this is the most ignorant thing I have ever seen. "Yuppie Scum" as you call them, if having a pager is the data point, might be an ER doctor or nurse, a plumber, a janitor, HONEST WORKING PEOPLE. Some people have a pager so the wife can call them to order Haagen Daas on the way home. Some pagers allow you to dial the last paged number by pressing a button on the pager, without ever looking at the number. The "entreprenuer", in my opinion, is the scum in this picture. And you sir, are running close second. Next time you're in the emergency room and your doctor is paged, imagine if he suddenly stops to think ... "Is that a toll call, or not. Hmmmm??". Nah, couldn't happen as long as your doctor is a "yuppie scum". Weaver Hickerson Voice (404) 496-1358 : ..!edu!gatech!holos0!wdh