Newsgroups: comp.org.acm Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!batcomputer!cornell!uw-beaver!fluke!kurt From: kurt@tc.fluke.COM (Kurt Guntheroth) Subject: Re: New format of CACM Message-ID: <1991May9.165219.1558@tc.fluke.COM> Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA References: <5862@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> <1991May3.230122.13004@dsd.es.com> <91May4.114925edt.2077@ois.db.toronto.edu> Date: Thu, 9 May 91 16:52:19 GMT Well, I called ACM headquarters at 212-869-7440. I found them less than sympathetic. They transferred me three times in one minute, finally leaving me with the "Art Department". He claims that the table of contents will be changed in the July issue because of the number of complaints they had received. He also claimed that the new graphical look was necessary and that if the people who "designed" the CACM didn't need all those graphics he wouldn't have a job. CACM is not a journal, it is a magazine. He said there are factions that are complaining that CACM should go back to the "old ways" but that's not going to happen. He also said they had received 10 positive comments for each negative one. (Not the ratio we are experiencing, but I guess we are one of those "factions". I suppose we could change his ratio though). All in all, I think they are totally out of control. He was interested in learning of specific instances of font clashes and inappropriate typography. I suggest that anyone else who wants to complain should be prepared with specific points to complain about, because they aren't interested in hearing that you think its ugly and its mother dresses it funny.