Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ncar!gatech!mcnc!rti!duncan From: duncan@rti.rti.org (Stephen Duncan) Newsgroups: comp.org.acm Subject: Proposals for CACM format Summary: changes to CACM format Keywords: cacm acm Message-ID: <1991May13.144014.9051@rti.rti.org> Date: 13 May 91 14:40:14 GMT Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC Lines: 58 (Our news crashed in the middle of posting this, so this may go out twice.) I'm starting this off with three quotes from the "New format of CACM" thread to continue a slightly different issue, namely, what do we want in a format? writes: But I don't read CACM because I like the pretty pictures. I read the articles. I even save them if they describe a technique I might use. The graphics go in the dumper. writes: I would scan the table of contents to find the interesting articles. Then look over Forum to see what is being debated. Next scan over the upcoming conferences timetable. Then go back and read the interesting article, if any. Then look at the articles which might be good for me to read, even if not particularly interesting. writes: I think part of the problem people have with the CACM is not knowning what its purpose is. I view the CACM as a general CS magazine for all members. I think the deep, 'scholarly' articles belong in other journals. CACM should (& it does) publish items that hopefully are of interest to all members. Michael hits the nail on the head. The majority of us here have a different view of CACM from the editors. My view is most similar to Kurt and Neil's, in that I view CACM for what I can get out of it. I also don't have a lot of free time to waste on browsing it, so clarity of presentation is a must. I treat it much like Neil, though not since they changed the format because I find it not worth the effort. Neil has pointed out that Scientific American is a better model than Byte and I agree: I can rapidly find what interests me in SA and even get something out of those articles that are not of major interest. This follows from a "breadth first" treatment of the subject, similar to that followed by newspapers. Here, then, is what I would like to see: - A readable, easily scanned table of contents, possibly annotated. - Readable (i.e. not in some bizarre font) Abstracts for all articles. - Articles well differentiated from advertisements, so they can be easily found when flipping pages. - Better use of fonts and layout. I'm not qualified to say just how it should be laid out, but I think a less intrusive layout is needed. One that enchances the articles rather than distracting from them. - I like Kurt's idea of starting articles on the right hand side, too. If they want flashy graphics, they can put that on the left, as long as the complete title and abstract are on the right. - I think Michael is right in that CACM articles should be of general interest to members, since everyone gets CACM. This doesn't mean a lack of scholarship, though. I'd like to see introductions to new areas as well as progress in existing areas that I don't get to deal with. Obviously those in my own areas will seem simple, but I've always got something to learn, even in those areas. Steve Duncan duncan@rti.rti.org