Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!cs.uoregon.edu!ns.uoregon.edu!duff.uoregon.edu!jqj From: jqj@duff.uoregon.edu (JQ Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.org.acm Subject: Re: New format of CACM Message-ID: <1991May13.185527.29826@ns.uoregon.edu> Date: 13 May 91 18:55:27 GMT References: <91May4.114925edt.2077@ois.db.toronto.edu> Sender: news@ns.uoregon.edu Organization: University of Oregon Network Services Lines: 39 Although I've been as disappointed as most of the posters here in the "new" CACM format, I must admit that it seems to be getting better. I spent some time today looking through the May 1991 issue, and found much less in the layout and typography to offend me than heretofore. The single biggest problem in the past couple of years has been lack of consistency; I think the designers might (?) finally be getting their style guides under control. There are still lots of typographic problems, though at least most of the body text and examples in the text are now readable. Among the things I still don't like: 1/ table of contents 2/ that ugly heavy serifed title font (e.g. "ACM FORUM" on page 21) 3/ the setting of the beginnings of articles in single-column bold with tan leading lines (e.g. p. 35). The tan lines make the text totally unreadable. 4/ that strange fixed-pitch font that is used for subtitles and authors (pp. 34, 35). Icould live with that font if it were the only typographic infelicity 5/ the various different fonts used for quotations extracted from the text. Compare p. 28, p. 96, and p. 99. A single readable font in a size only a couple of points larger than the body size should be used throughout for these sorts of things. 6/ variation in heading styles. Must greater consistency is desirable. Why are section headings in Inside Risks (p. 128) different from those in most of the articles? 7/ the wierd way some text is set (e.g. the intro to the Software Engineering special issue pp. 32-33). I can understand wanting this to look different from the articles, but it's too different, and using dingbats instead of paragraph breaks is unreadable. Bottom line is that I still tend to file unread my CACMs when they arrive (because the new format is too unpleasant to look at), but I'm willing to leaf through a few more issues in hopes that it is improving. -- JQ Johnson Director of Network Services Internet: jqj@oregon.uoregon.edu University of Oregon voice: (503) 346-1746 250E Computing Center BITNET: jqj@oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1212 fax: (503) 346-4397