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From: jls@netcom.COM (Jim Showalter)
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Subject: Re: bridge building and discipline
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Date: 9 May 91 05:33:11 GMT
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>> I just happen to think that C only works with
>> software engineering if discipline is mixed in, and this seems to be a
>> commodity in short supply, certain among most of the software 
>> developers I've worked with in the last ten years.
>> 
>> So, people being people,
>> I sort of figure people do better software engineering if
>> they have a language more conducive to it than C.

>This is dangerously close to big-brotherism.  Since people are people and 
>can't be taught or persuaded to be disciplined, remove <things> that permit 
>them to be undisciplined and therefore easier to control.  

If someone with an eye on the bottom line determines that undisciplined
programmers are costing the company money, it is NOT big brotherism to
impose a more software-engineering-oriented language on them: this is
called "capitalism".