Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!olivea!samsung!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!udel!sbcs!eeserv1.ic.sunysb.edu!dtiberio From: dtiberio@eeserv1.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: It's really tough to debate with ignorant... Message-ID: <1991May9.194203.4604@sbcs.sunysb.edu> Date: 9 May 91 19:42:03 GMT References: <8raGbu-=1@cs.psu.edu> <11772@uwm.edu> Sender: usenet@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Usenet poster) Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Lines: 93 In article melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes: > >In article <11772@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes: >Taxes, accounting, CAD, spreadsheets. nExt only has two strong >contenders in one of these(spreadsheets). The rest are void. How >many top rated applications exist for the Amiga that are rated as good >as the ones for other computers? 3d ray tracers and paint programs are YEARS ahead of other computers. Actually, as far as price + performance, MOST Amiga programs are a better value than other computers. > > Ok, am I missing something or am I arguing with an idiot? The Amiga > > Not unless you're talking to yourself again. > >Are you the goof who doesn't know how many colors the Amiga has? The person didn't state that the Amiga 500 has 24 bit color; he stated that an Amiga 500 can get a $500 video board with 24 bit color. Actually, there are now four of them available from $280 - $500. > > 500 and friends(A3000 is better...) have 4096 colors which is the same > > as the nExtstation color. 2^12 = 4096. It's pretty bad when a user > > of a different brand of computer has to give you the facts about your > > machine. > > No kidding. Of course, the nExtSTATION COLOR has that. And that's > more money, and then you need a huge hard drive to hold the software, > and that's more money.... and more ram, and that's more money... > I could slap you for that one. What do you mean, the average user > won't need man pages? Have you lost your mind??? I even sometimes > need them. I needed them when I started using workstations. I use > them for references, sometimes. What about all of the other nifty > software? And how's about all that workspace that's left??? I think > maybe 105 mb wouldn't be enough given the things I like to do. I > think maybe 650 might fill it nicely. I do a lot of graphics work. > And that takes up space on a hard drive. > >Then you will have to buy a bigger hard disk or get another computer. >What do you use for a reference on the Amiga? Do you really thing >everyone needs the man page for fopen() online? Yes, everyone needs to know. Before you talk about the 'average Joe' and now you talk about the 'experienced programmer'. > > leave them off so the machine doesn't cost as much. > > Fooling the user into thinking he can have it all, and then realizing > he needs more space to really sink his teeth into a nExt. > >nExt publishes what is included on both the small release and the >nExtended release of the softare. I don't see how they're misleading >anyone. 20 - 40 megs of disk space is hardly adequate for a nExt. > > > I think some of you guys should be required to take a written test > > before you are allowed on the net. I'm not saying that all Amiga > > people are ignorant, but some of you guys definitely are. > > And I think maybe you should know more about what you talk about than > just what you hear from other users... > > God, I just wasted 15 minutes arguing with someone who doesn't know > > how many colors his computer has. What a time sucker? > > I don't remember saying I don't know how many colors my computer has. It was Mike's fault for not understanding the original post about 24 bit video boards for $300 - $500. > If you can't realize that, you have problems. I was referring to the > average nExt buyer, and his mono system... > >You said the A500 had 24 bit color! You were wrong! He said the A500 + $500 video board has 24 bit color! He was right! > >-mIKE > -- David Tiberio SUNY Stony Brook 2-3481 AMIGA DDD-MEN "If you think that we're here for the money, we could live without it. But the world isn't too good here, and it wasn't always like that." Un ragazzo di Casalbordino, Italia.