Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!udel!sbcs!eeserv1.ic.sunysb.edu!dtiberio From: dtiberio@eeserv1.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: Anyone actually own an 040 Amiga? Message-ID: <1991May9.195945.4780@sbcs.sunysb.edu> Date: 9 May 91 19:59:45 GMT References: <91124.170117MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> <+q2G9+1*1@cs.psu.edu> Sender: usenet@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Usenet poster) Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Lines: 88 In article <+q2G9+1*1@cs.psu.edu> melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes: > >In article <91124.170117MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes: > > Gosh, I dunno. Wait a minute, here's some companies that are planning > drop-in 68040 boards for $800, barely the cost of the 68040 chip itself. > Well, there ya go. > >How long are we going to have to wait? Eh? We have all seen prototypes running. It is whether or not Motorola can pump out more 68040s, not whther they still need to be developed. There are already ads in magazines for 68040 boards. > Wild guess: $1000 or so. YOU, however, will NOT be able to upgrade > YOUR NeXT Slab to the 68050, PERIOD. In 3 years you'll have to throw out your > Slab and buy a Boulder. Assuming nExt is still around in three years. > >Then buy the Boulder today for an extra $1500 to $2000 so you can So the price is now up to about $5000. I bought my Amiga 500 for $500, and it puts out more than a $5000 nExt. Mine works so much I haven't turned it off in two weeks. I do raytracing every night, along with my regular coding. And my total investment was about $1500 over a 15 month period. I upgraded when I was DAMN READY! >expand it in three years. nExt released the slab so people could >afford a nExt who couldn't before. People buy Pizza box >SparcStations. I wonder why? Got an answer? What kind of a comparison is that? Should I eat my beans at dinner too because the kid across the street does? > The ECS Agnes and Denise chips together cost $150; for this you drop > in completely new chips. The cost will never be much more than that. > >Does that mean they aren't available yet too(too as in where is A DOS >2.0) Amiga DOS 2.0 is all over the place. The new chips are dropping all over too, and when I need 2.0 and a new chip set, I will get them. The standard chips do not cripple the Amiga in the same way as a nExt is crippled unless you plan on using it just to prove you spend lots of money. > Even a lowly Amiga 500 can be expanded to take advantage of every > expansion devise there is: lots of people have '030-powered A500s. > Get a clue: most people would rather not have to throw away their > old computer if they want to take advantage of a new chip. There's > a reason for expansion ports, y'know. > >REALLLLYYYY!!! What about the super expandable Amiga 1000? What's CSA Meg Midget Racer - 68030 25 mhz! One unit can plug into any Amiga 500, 1000, or 2000! No need to exchange or swap anything! AdIDE hard drive controller! Fits into any Amiga 500, 1000, or 2000! CI Ram 8 meg expander! Fits into any Amiga 500, 1000, or 2000! AtONCE IBM 286! Fits into Amiga 1000, 500 or 2000! AMAX Macintosh emulator! Fits into any Amiga 1000, 500, or 2000! DCTV, HamE, Colorburst! Fits into any Amiga 1000, 500, or 2000 for 24 bit color! The A1000 is just as expandable, so don't knock it! >going to happen to it? That was just a protoype right? Can I get >half bright mode for an early Amiga 1000? How about 2 megs of chip If there's a socket, just pop in the chip! Really no big deal... I'd rather have no half brites than no color at all :). >RAM? People would rather think that they can expand their computer >forever so they'll pay more money for something that they won't use. >Slabs cost $2500. If nExt doesn't offer another board for the Slab, >I'll just order out for another pizza box. I imagine that an 040 nExt >will still be worth $1000 to $1500 in three years(slab only). > >-mIKE You have a good imagination. When three years comes around, so will the new chips and hardware, which will make your unexpandable pizza bag worthless to any new user who can get a used Amiga 3000 for the same price. I plan on buying TWO new computers this month; both Amiga 3000s, and for only $1800 each, BRAND SPANKIN' NEW. -- David Tiberio SUNY Stony Brook 2-3481 AMIGA DDD-MEN "If you think that we're here for the money, we could live without it. But the world isn't too good here, and it wasn't always like that." Un ragazzo di Casalbordino, Italia.