Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixb.cc.columbia.edu!es1 From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) Subject: Re: 486 clone vs. Amiga 3000 Message-ID: <1991May12.235412.1376@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Sender: usenet@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (The Network News) Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu Reply-To: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) Organization: Columbia University References: <48814@ut-emx.uucp> <24739@well.sf.ca.us> <1991May12.211848.7252@athena.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 12 May 1991 23:54:12 GMT In article <1991May12.211848.7252@athena.mit.edu> reynaldo@athena.mit.edu (Rey Villarreal) writes: >Ok I have owned an amiga 500 for three years it is really dear >to my heart . I am now upgrading. When I bought my Amiga 500 I did >so over buying a 286. I did because the Amiga outperformed a 286 >graphics wise and speed wise. That was then this is now. SOmeone please >find a way to convince me to buy a 3000. Here are some rough stats as I >see them. > >Microprocessor Intel486 Motorolla 68030 >Clock Speed 25 Mhz 25Mhz >Memory 4/32 2/16 Meg 5/18 >Hard Drive 100 Meg 50 Meg 100 >Max Resolution/Colors 1024x768x254 640x480x16 732 >on 14 inch Multisync >no flicker >case Tower add $1000 for tower > and descent amount > of slots(A3000T) The A3000 comes with FIVE slots, up to 18MB on the motherboard, built-in SCSI, built-in flicker-fixer and 3 3.5" drive bays. That should cover most people's needs. If that isn't good enough you CAN get an A2500 or wait for the A3000T. And don't assume pricing, the $1K is probably the list price increase. >Software Library Enormous Small by comparison Not with a bridge board. It all depends on what you need. Do you want 3-D modeling? Seems to me the reverse it true. Do you want spreadsheets? You're absolutely right. >OS 3 crappy chices Best on Micro >Competition in Market Ocean of Barracuda couple of sharks >driving prices down >Sound add $175 board 11 voices good 4 voices Number of voices isn't very important, since if you digitize sound you only need 1, 2 for stereo. Also, since the Amiga has built-in sound there is MUCH better support for it. >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Price(aka God) $2999 ~3100 educational >Noe Prices include NEC 3D multisync:Note to Amiga 3000 buyers dont >bother with Commodores monitor I hear it is crappy. Sorry Dave but >cant trust company that got rid of 1080(A very nice monitor) for >1084(snap!crackle!pop) > >Please somebody explain why I would buy an amiga unless I want to >make presentations to my marketing group(I am an engineer(almost] who cares] > >Just by numbers it seems as though the 3000 gets thrashed unless you are >doing video work. But even here the IBM will catch up soon. Windows is >memory and processor hungry but who cares with these prices. >It seems Commodore has some real work to do. I could be wrong >I am a novice. If so don't flame be calm and educate me >The price on the 486 is correct by the way, no flaming on that. > >Being a present day Amiga owner I know the flames I am going to get. > >Hmmm where is that asbestos suit anyway...... > > >----Rey(toast) Villarreal Well, that $3,100 pricing isn't accurate for the 5MB model, which is what I added. That is $3,421, plus about $550 for the NEC 3D and you've got $1K more than the IBM. It all depends on what you want to do with the computer. If you are hooking up to a network and need X windows and Ethernet, like an engineer might, then the Amiga is a GREAT choice. You don't need Unix, you can do it under AmigaDOS. As an engineer you might also want Unix, in which case $4K gets the same Amiga with Unix, plus $489 for the A2024 1Kx800 4 grey scale monitor and you've got $4.5K for a complete Unix system. So, what programs do you want to run? BTW, what make of 486 is that? IBM, Compaq or Taiwan Special? -- Ethan GEORGE BUSH MURDER ASSASSINATE PENTAGON CAPITOL WHITE HOUSE Greetings to the loyal Americans working at the NSA! Enjoy.