Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!psuvax1!news From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) Subject: Re: The ongoing glut of NeXT-related posts (Re: the recent glut of Amiga-related posts) In-Reply-To: peter@sugar.hackercorp.com's message of Mon, 13 May 1991 00: 26:47 GMT Message-ID: Sender: news@cs.psu.edu (Usenet) Nntp-Posting-Host: sunws5.sys.cs.psu.edu Organization: Penn State Computer Science References: <1991May8.063518.5934@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <1991May9.044759.27402@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> <1991May13.002647.187@sugar.hackercorp.com> Date: Mon, 13 May 1991 21:38:42 GMT Lines: 47 In article <1991May13.002647.187@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: [ I've gone wild bashing everyone deleted] Hey Peter, I call it as I see it, and I give credit where credit is due. I've said some good things about the Amiga. It is nice for animation, and I have even said that the Amiga does a better job at it than the NeXT. I've said the NeXTStep is better than OpenLook, and I said that the 040 NeXT is comparable to a SPARC 1+ in speed. I didn't massively flame Sun. I haven't said much bad about Apple. However, did I mention that ballon help is probably the only thing in System 7.0 qthat NeXTStep 2.0 doesn't contain? IBM, well I won't pass up chance to bash them. There has been a little educational value out of all this. Several people have stated that Display Postscript doesn't necessarily have to be slow(whether NeXT's implementation is efficient wasn't really discussed). The blitter on this great animation machine is not even as fast as an 030 for most operations, and some Amiga users have even gone so far as to use the 030 instead. Wait till they get their 040 upgrades and find that it's three times faster than the 030. The blitter must just be retired. Can we conclude that 20-30fps of animation is quite possible on the NeXT, so we can all play games on the machine while we do a little work. Or is that the other way around :-). Some of the arguing has been about NeXT not giving all of their free software on the 105MB computers. Another thread was about the sorry state of word processing on the Amiga. A few Amiga users pointed out that it could be a lot better. People have been complaining that the NeXTstation is not expandable and I've been trying to persuade them that is not too important(You can add more RAM, HD, modem, etc., of course) It's better IMHO to sell your old machine and buy a new machine in a few years, if you really want to upgrade. One of the reason that I find the NeXT so exciting is that the average businessman can get a personal workstation. The horsepower of a Sun plus the user friendliness of a Mac. But you think that an IBM PC/XT is all that most people will ever need? Right Peter? Computer scientist should have retired after 1983? -Mike