Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!rex!uflorida!gatech!hubcap!ncrcae!ncr-sd!se-sd!cns!dltaylor From: dltaylor@cns.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Dan Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm Subject: Re: 19200bps Message-ID: <942@cns.SanDiego.NCR.COM> Date: 8 May 91 18:28:05 GMT References: <1991May5.185645.12902@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <1991May5.201708.452@cec1.wustl.edu> Organization: NCR Corp. SE-San Diego Lines: 17 In dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes: > A normal phone line has a bandwidth of around 38KBaud. As any There are still a LOT of subscriber lines with 3KHz filters. That is NOT a misprint, 3000 Hz. Some urban subscriber lines have 38KHz, but not many. The higher data rates are achieved by compressing the information in various ways, and using schemes like "trellis coding" to send more "bits per second" than the phone lines can normally stand. Of course, leased point-to-point lines are not normally filtered like this. That's why the older "high-speed" modems worked on them, long before most subscriber lines could. The FAX people have this problem, too. Their machines have many graceful fallback modes. Personally, I WANT an optical ISDN connection as my subscriber line. Dan Taylor